Kroger closing Manhattan location will be blow to neighborhood…
The title is the easiest way to sum up what’s happening, though some have been a bit more blunt, as reported by Fox Toledo. There’s also a shorter news brief on WTVG.
This is going to be a problem for people in that part of Toledo, just as it is a problem for other people in parts of Toledo that don’t have easy access to a grocery store like Kroger. Transportation is a huge issue in many parts of this City, which makes it impossible for me not to mention that I think the destruction of cars in the whole “Cash for Clunker’s” deal is an outrage. While those cars may have been “clunkers” to those who could afford to trade them in for new models they would have been dream cars for many of those who have cars in much worse shape or those that have no cars at all…
I used to shop there for myself and for my mother. When the Kroger Point Place store opened, I started shopping at that store. I didn’t care for the Manhattan store. To me it was managed poorly and the meat cases stunk to high heaven. The service is much better at the Point Place store, and it’s much cleaner. It’s worth the extra few minutes and gas to shop at the Point Place store for me. As for gas, I can fill up my car at the Point Place store after I am done shopping.
August 8th, 2009 at 2:03 pm“I think the destruction of cars in the whole “Cash for Clunker’s” deal is an outrage.”
You are so right about this. I’m sure many of those cars could still be safely driven. There are many families that cannot afford new cars and this program is driving of the cost of used cars.
Once again, a govt program creating adverse, unintended consequences.
These are the people that some of you want to put in charge of health care?!!!
August 8th, 2009 at 2:20 pmDitto to Lisa and Jenny, of course, having already commented on this previously (clunkers etc.)
It boggles the mind so much that it almost leaves the average person speechless. The destruction of perfectly good used cars was really mentioned to us taxpayers in the beginning of this program was it? Even the name “cash for clunkers” is deceptive, because a very old car that got decent gas mileage, wasn’t eligible, if I understand correctly.
But all those car parts, including interior seats, that could have been salvaged. I had a perfectly good engine with 55,000 miles on it put into a Pontiac I had years ago. It ran better than the original engine. This is exactly why Marcy Kaptur and every other congressman who is refusing to have town hall meetings need to have town hall meetings whether they like it or not.
They are out of touch with not only their constituents – they are out of touch with reality.
August 8th, 2009 at 3:45 pmcorrection – the car destruction was NOT mentioned to voters/citizens when this program was first put forth. It rewards the “haves” and once again unfairly punishes the “have-nots”. A lot of people with, say, minimum wage jobs who can’t afford cars will have some of their taxes go to pay for it. It just boggles the mind.
As to the store closing – it’s just another domino going down. I mean, look at Woodville Mall, it’s a ghost town with a few stores left – for now.
August 8th, 2009 at 3:53 pmI wonder what kind of cash the government will give my dependents to scrap ME under ObamaCare when I become a clunker.
August 8th, 2009 at 7:20 pmVoR, I don’t think either one of us would be worth much except if the whole Soylent Green thing were to happen.
August 8th, 2009 at 7:45 pmBut all those car parts, including interior seats, that could have been salvaged.
The local radio station it wrong (go figure). All parts of the the cars can salvaged except for the engines.
For my full slap down of Fred…
August 8th, 2009 at 8:08 pmhttp://swampbubbles.com/20090804/cash-clunkers
That’s true Sensor only the engine and all of the parts to the engine which many people could take advantage of are destroyed, Popular Mechanic’s take on it (which as the former owner of a 1969 Plymouth Road Runner I agree with):
August 8th, 2009 at 8:24 pmLisa, how did all the clunker comments get on the page about Kroger closing their store?
August 8th, 2009 at 10:39 pmI mentioned the transportation aspect.
August 8th, 2009 at 10:41 pmI wrote:
August 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pmjenny wrote:
Sure beats who’s currently in charge of health care. Do you like dropped coverage, preexisting conditions and skyrocketing premiums, deductibles and co-pays, 40 million uninsured, and the most expensive per capita health care system in the world? Didn’t think so.
Just trust your local kind-hearted corporation for health care delivery. Thanks but no thanks, Jen.
August 9th, 2009 at 1:47 amSkip wrote:
You must be kidding. Talk to someone on government run medicaid, medicare or health care for military families. They can tell you about dropped coverage, denied claims, increasing copays, limited choices of providers, etc.
August 9th, 2009 at 9:45 amLet’s stick to the topic, shall we?
Didn’t Kroger wanted to expand at the Manhattan Plaza but the owners wouldn’t allow it? If you haven’t noticed, Kroger is getting out of leasing their stores and building new ones on their own properties which would lower the costs of operating; however, if a leased property allows them to expand then they will invest (i.e. Miracle Mile, Southland, Navarre in Oregon). Based on my research, Kroger owns their own properties at Detroit/Glendale, Suder Avenue, Sylvania, Holland-Sylvania/Bancroft, etc; but it’s unfortunate that their business model calls for an expansion but if it’s not granted then they will close.
To replace the soon-to-be closed Kroger on Manhattan, I’m sure they can find ample of lands to buy and build their own store because there is ample of population to support it. My suggestion: look at Manhattan/I-280 area, Detroit/Central, Lagrange/Greenbelt Parkway or Chrysler/Stickney. It is truly needed since I’ve heard that Kroger was going to buy the Swayne Field Shopping Center but nothing’s come out of it.
I do my shopping at Kroger but I prefer going to a location that has the fueling station because it’s convenient.
August 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pmRockets Man Says:
August 9th, 2009 at 5:21 pmDidn’t Kroger wanted to expand at the Manhattan Plaza but the owners wouldn’t allow it?
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That is the reason and I don’t get it. There is enough room for expansion. I use to work at an office in Miracle Mile and saw the expansion they did with the Kroger store there. I love it. I can buy flowers and my fav Red Door perfume at Kroger. If you bank with 5th 3rd and need gas and groceries it’s a one stop shopping for many. Most of my family and friends have moved from the North End to the “burbs” I purchased my home almost 7 years ago and although the makret is great to purchase a $200,000 home for far less I don’t want the headache to rent my home out and be a landlord. I love the lay out of my house and if I could pick it up and move it somewhere else I would. But I would also miss some of my neighbors. We need to keep Korger here. Not everyone has tranportation but also want “quality” food. We are not just a commumity or ppl living where we do but we are “family”. The media makes it seem as though the North End is all bad, it’s not. My family and friends who moved to the “burbs” still remember where they came from and still love to shop at Kmart Plaza which includeds “our Kroger” store. It’s not like they are tearing down the whole plaza to make condos or a new highway. Keep Kroger where it is and imporve it. Most ppl have a problem with change(I know I do), what happend to “choice”? Did we the ppl get a chance to decide if the store expanded or just leaves altogether? Nope!
KEEP SHOPPING KROGER GREAT STORES AND THEY ARE UNION….UFCW LOCAL 75
August 10th, 2009 at 12:04 amI prefer walmart, I’m sure they would be more than happy to build a store in that part of the city. They have everything you need all in one location, its great!
August 10th, 2009 at 12:44 amLisa,
You’re correct about cash for clunkers. It is a program that does hurt the poor. There were a couple great blog posts about that here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA8IM550tTU
The Unintended Consequences of Cash for Clunkers:
August 10th, 2009 at 10:21 amhttp://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=23134
I think it sucks that the Manhattan Kroger is closing, but hopefully Kroger will build a new store at another location in that area soon.
The cash for clunkers is a good idea on paper, but it doesn’t seem to work well in reality. Although, it seems it is wildly popular. Have any Glass City Jungle readers taken advantage of it? I myself, don’t have enough money for car payments and insurance on a brand new car. It really sucks that this program will make it harder for me to shop for a used car if I were shopping for cars. I’m hoping that my current car will last me a bit longer. I also heard that this program will/has drive/driven up the cost of used parts.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:40 pmRobin Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 11:51 pmThe cash for clunkers is a good idea on paper, but it doesn’t seem to work well in reality. Although, it seems it is wildly popular. Have any Glass City Jungle readers taken advantage of it? I myself, don’t have enough money for car payments and insurance on a brand new car
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I have not taken advantage of this but thought about it. After 10 minutes of thinking, I thought , NO. I too don’t want a car payment plus I found out my cars did not qualtify. LOL. (That really may be a blessing in desguise, GOD telling me to appreciate what I already have). I work at a insurance comapany and a lot of our policy holders have(taken advantage of this or were they the ones being taken advanage of).Very few called to ask what it would be to take an older car with liabilty off their policy and to add a 2009 new car with full coverage. There are unhappy ppl that now are paying insurance that is the same amount as their car payment. I know of someone who took advantage of this program and did not get the price the sales person told them. There are going to be lots of law suits filed.