Email sent out containing comment from DeWine on Stainbrook
I received this via e-mail, since it did not come from a known source, I emailed asking Kevin DeWine to verify this statement and the context, over 24 hours have passed with no response. I would expect that if it was not true, and it was known I was going to post it, that Mr. DeWine or someone from the Ohio GOP would have responded.
Columbus, OH – Last week, Ohio Republican Party Chairman Kevin DeWine (R-Fairborn) took bold action to reign in Lucas County GOP Chairman Jon Stainbrook. In response to an e-mail exposing Stainbrook’s history of secretly recording private conversations with fellow Republicans and leaking them to media outlets, Chairman DeWine issued the following strong words of condemnation:
“Secretive taping of conversations is distasteful.”
This appears to be a new direction for the Ohio Republican Party, which has historically stayed out of local party affairs. At issue is not whether Jon Stainbrook has been widely ineffective, as many critics claim. Instead, Chairman DeWine has appeared to draw the line in the sand and intervene when a county chairman engages in actions that inflict damage on other Republicans. Further action may follow.
For those involved in state and local politics, it has been pretty well known that Columbus has not been happy with the new “Chairman” since his election. Chairman DeWine has much more important issues to worry about instead of constantly having to put Jon in a corner for misbehaving.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:27 pmWhen it comes to releases, I post them as they are received, I took additional steps in this case since it did not come from a known source. I’ve made it point to not editorialize media releases on the actual post.
I’ve heard that said Ryan, but I’ve not personally confirmed it, I don’t have that much contact with either State Party. Most of my focus is local.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:34 pmRyan J. Austin wrote:
Which makes this particularly interesting that he chastized a sitting chairman. Has Redfern or the Dems ever had to do this? Is this precedented in the Ohio GOP?
March 24th, 2009 at 9:47 pmRedfern became involved in some of the Lucas County Party drama after what is known as “strippergate” took place. He came in to try to foster unity as well as took a fairly active approach at the time at what was happening here.
I’m not sure as to the Ohio GOP, perhaps other posters with more experience as to that party can provide that information.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:50 pmIn the past it has been the strict policy of the ORP to stay out of local issues. There has been a myriad of other problems involving other county chairmen in the past without a statement or involvement from the ORP. Even last year when they feared the incoming Stainbrook insurgency they refused to interfere for the most part. This speaks volumes to the seriousness of Stainbrook’s actions.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:02 pmI believe Chairman DeWine has been aware of this situation since Bob Bennett was still the sitting chairman. It was put on the back burner because of the presidential election and the transition of the Ohio GOP chairmanship. Now that DeWine has things in order, it appears that he will now take action. Clearly something needs to be done, and looking toward 2010’s U.S. Congressional races, I think DeWine wants to get his house in order so he can campaign efficiently and productively.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:03 pmIt’s not a surprise the Ohio Republican Party took action. The only real question was when Dewine would grow tired of Stainbrook’s antics.
Although I’m not technically “inside of Columbus politics”, I’ve been hearing rumblings that Ohio GOP is fed-up Stainbrook. Dewine’s statement provides some evidence of that.
I’m really looking forward to Stainbrook’s response. How would you like to be the only county chairmen of either party denounced by the state party chairmen?
Well John—You are not respected here in Lucas County nor are you around the state of Ohio.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:06 pmDeWine’s quote is actually kind of tame, but the fact he gave any quote at all tells me this is just the start.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:18 pmMartha-
March 24th, 2009 at 10:29 pmWhile I agree with you that Stainbrook is not respected in Columbus, his image here in town is impeccable. Not only was he not invited to Mark Wagoner and Barbara Sears’s election night victory party, he also has used his charisma to recruit solid candidates for 2009 like first time voter Hans Schnapp, unknown lawyer Bill Connely, and is facing the reality of George Sarantou and Jim Moody rescinding their party affiliation. Please Martha, show the man a little respect.
Patrick, Bill Connely did get his name in the media for being the prosecutor to handle the Neff case, which could make for some interesting speculation as to should he still be on the case considering the relationship of Neff and Stainbrook…He appears to want to make an example of Neff, and one could wonder at the motivation.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:36 pmOh, I’m sure Stainbrook apologists will have anecdotes of how he and Kev are tight, but the fact of the matter is, I have heard of several sources who have said they had conversations with DeWine about finding a suitable replacement and he’ll get behind them to get rid of the distraction.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:36 pmPlease do not drag Bill Connelly’s name into this sordid mess. I don’t know Bill, Jr. personally. But I knew his father and his sister. Bill Sr. tried to be a peacemaker in the face of the ugly specter of the Blade and got a public lynching for it.
I don’t know Bill, Jr. But I’m not going to judge him on whether or not he is associated with Jon Stainbrook.
I can’t and won’t defend Jon anymore. When he deliberately, and with malice, provoked a confrontation with Michael Miller, I decidedly moved out of the Stainbrook camp. I know Jon’s strengths, having worked with him on past campaigns. Despite the complaints of his detractors, Jon brought a lot to the table as GOP chairman. However, forced to weigh the character of of two men — Michael Miller and Jon Stainbrook– I found Jon wanting.
Nobody has forced me to choose sides, but at the end of the day, I’d much rather be associated with Michael Miller than Jon Stainbrook.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:56 pmI’m anxiously looking forward to that list of accomplishments in his tenure as leader of the Lucas County Republican Party.
I’m even going to be more entertained by Jon’s half-witted crew of apologists that permiate this site the moment Jon’s name hits the hard drive.
I’m half-heartened to speculate because of the lack of comments at of the time of the posting, most of the rifraf are neck deep in a quart of Dewars. The rest are still trying to figure out the “Paddle and Ball attached with String®” game.
March 25th, 2009 at 3:57 amOh…. Maxi-pad,
I don’t think Jon needs much defending. And if he does, it’s likely to come from the ORP Chairman, himself.
Mr. “tires” has struck another blow for ignoble, self-righteous pajama pundits, and sunk a little lower into the black swamp. And, all with an anonymous email….This guy truly is on a roll!
Schwartzie, congrats on the signatures! At $4.50 a pop, it is amazing the zealots you can acquire. The good news is, Stainbrook gets to read for himself about your “unwavering support” you promised, last summer (when you needed a job).
I’m not sure why Lisa would post an anonymous email about Jon Stainbrook…? Oops! Just noticed GJC has dropped to #4. Got it.
Carry on….
March 25th, 2009 at 6:34 amNot even close Rogue, the number of comments is not an issue when it comes to the State ranking, as the Ohio Editor of BNN, I know that. I could never write another post on Stainbrook again and the ranking would fluctuate. But thank you for your valiant attempt to question my credibility.
I often include emails written by people who don’t name themselves, in this case I did what I always do, try to source it and I gave the person quoted, Kevin DeWine an opportunity to respond before it was posted since he was mentioned. Had DeWine contact me and told me he did not say that? I would not have posted it unless I could have found direct evidence that he did.
Carry on though…
March 25th, 2009 at 7:30 amLisa-
What makes you think that GCJ rises to the level for the state chairman to make time out of what is typically a very busy calendar to respond to your inquiry/threat before posting?
I’m guessing his day was too full for something of this caliber.
Posting an anonymous email on the blog here is so Chris Myers-like. nice going Lisa, you’ll drop to 10 soon at this rate…
March 25th, 2009 at 8:40 amI’m guessing not even Kevin DeWine would want something he didn’t state out there if given the opportunity to clarify, but if he or anyone wants to ignore this blog? They are more than welcome too.
Nice attempt at an insult Henri but you and Rogue need to work on it just a bit more. I did in this situation what I’ve done and will continue to do, make a good faith effort to source and when there is a question? Attempt to get it answered before I post. I could just throw unfounded things out there, like claims Mike Bell owned a house in Columbus.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:02 amGood Morning, All,
Right on schedule! Sorry, Lisa, I think Rogue and Henri have a point…time to boost the ratings!
Before I went to bed last night, I remember thinking it was about time for a Stainbrook piece! Right on time, q 10 days, whether we need it or not!
Thanks for not disappointing!
mj
ps…Brian, I somehow think that Jon may have had your motives figured out a while back…I’m guessing your support won’t be missed. Sorry.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:03 amBrian Schwartz wrote:
Go figure Brian, this from a guy who was suspended for similar antics as Michael Miller. Yet, Mr. TBT, you still think that behavior is okay…
And as Mindy said, Jon had you pegged a bit ago, I am sure he won’t lose much sleep over your departure from his fold.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:18 amMindy, it’s clear neither you nor Rogue nor Henri understand how the rankings/ratings work. That’s okay, it ruins the chance to try to discredit what’s stated by looking at reality.
I completely understand what you are doing, it’s the same game others play, shoot the messenger rather than deal with the real issue at hand. Make it about me rather than about what was stated, unfortunately? Eventually it becomes pretty transparent.
If you are however interested in an indepth discussion as to how the whole ranking process works and why it’s impossible for a post about Jon Stainbrook to do anything to “move me up” I’ll be happy to go into a very tech detailed explanation of the factors that are involved in the ranking system. One of the most important factors is not comments, it would be linking and writing about Jon Stainbrook? Doesn’t get you linked. If it were based on the number of comments alone? GCJ would rank number one every week, even when it was Stain free.
Personally, I’d be just as happy to not have Mr. Stainbrook create material that ends up being blogged, all that happens is junk like this, those who don’t like him come out of the woodwork and those of you that don’t want to address his behavior? Use this as an opportunity to take shots at me and I waste valuable time dealing with it when I’d much rather focus on things like researching the latest report on Green Economy & Jobs in Ohio. If however I get to the point where I allow you, Henri & Rogue or anyone to influence what I post or I start worrying about where I’m ranked? Then I’m no different than some of the media sources when it comes to selectivity…
If I’m in the top ten, it’s an honor, when I’m number one it’s great but there have been many times when the blog has gone below that, I’ve somehow managed to go on…
March 25th, 2009 at 9:20 amAs an aside, trying to make it about Brian is just as silly as trying to make it about me.
Normally when you learn something doesn’t work? You try something different.
The reality is it appears this is a valid quote from Kevin DeWine, no one has disputed the truth that Jon tape records people and does share that with the media. It is however interesting since witnesses state they saw him taping the exchange he had with Michael Miller that he didn’t share that. Especially since he has tried to discount what the students and Michael Miller stated.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:33 amOh, Lisa,
Lighten up!
I am sure you are behaving as ethecially as possible in a ethecially daunting environment! I am not really questioning your jugement.
You’re right, I have no idea how ratings are calculated nor do I have need to know. This is purely entertainment for me…If I have to learn about it and really worry about it, it becomes work. I have a job, thanks, just the same.
But you do have to admit…Jon pops up about every 10 days and does generate posts! That is my point. The End!
Be Well.
mj
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March 25th, 2009 at 9:42 amLisa,
I get the point!
You send a “when did you stop beating your wife?” email to the ORP Chairman, and tick off the minutes until you can post the anonymous email, and tack on the “no response from…” tag.
And, thanks for proposing “we’re too stupid to understand” your motivations.
PS. I’ve received an anonymous email that you drown puppies, care to comment….?
March 25th, 2009 at 9:48 amLisa-
Since you want us to believe you are a person with ethics and high standards about what you post, and when, then answer me this;
Why did you NOT create a link to the full email, instead of doing your much despised “cut and paste”?
Oh, the humanity of it all…
ps- that’s not shooting the messenger, just a fact.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:02 amLisaRenee wrote:
Lisa you are number one in my book and many others! Regardless of what the stainbrook defenders say, it is much easier to attack you than to try and defend the actions of a loon.
It is about time the state party stepped in. I know Chairman DeWine has had conversations with Republican leaders and elected officials trying to rid the party of this scourge. It seems many in Columbus want the stain to crawl back under the rock from which he came and take his band of merry misfits with him.
The taping of Olman was the straw that broke the camels back, unfortunately for the stain it appears his obsession with secretive audio/video will be his demise. Then it will be back to making videos of left wing kooks, garage bands, and the litigation lottery for the stain.
Special message for Brian Schwartz – I look forward to reading about your private conversations with the stain in the blade. He should release them soon. Do you think you will make the sunday edition?
March 25th, 2009 at 10:11 amI don’t think you are too stupid Rogue and I would suggest you think back into your recent memory as to a time when I reached out to you in the same way and didn’t post about something. This whole theme of “I post about Jon Stainbrook” for the ratings has been trotted out before, and I’ve stated that’s not true, most of you aren’t into the whole “tech thing” and once again, I understand your motivations. You make them really clear. I understand the hope that by doing this to me every time something comes up that you don’t want to address that I’ll stop because it’s too much of a hassle. I’ve done this for too long to let it be anything more than a mild irritant. It’s getting to the point where I could just write one response and then just cut and paste it to save time and energy.
As to drowning puppies? Nope, nor do I kick cats.
Mindy, this isn’t fun to me, my idea of fun is trying to create something much more positive than blogging about Jon Stainbrook. It’s a never ending drama where until those who are local republicans decide to either do something about it or accept it? Will unfortunately probably continue for a long time to come. My party isn’t perfect either and those of you who pay attention to what I cover as a bigger picture issue know that I’m not afraid to judge/critique my party too.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:19 amhenri wrote:
Duh henri, wake up – this looks like it just might be the email which i copied and pasted from the information Lisa posted.
Columbus, OH – Last week, Ohio Republican Party Chairman Kevin DeWine (R-Fairborn) took bold action to reign in Lucas County GOP Chairman Jon Stainbrook. In response to an e-mail exposing Stainbrook’s history of secretly recording private conversations with fellow Republicans and leaking them to media outlets, Chairman DeWine issued the following strong words of condemnation:
“Secretive taping of conversations is distasteful.”
That looks like a press release to me.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:20 amLisa you need to quit responding to these idiots and let us do it for you!
Henri, I posted the email as it was received, the same way I post all emails, you can’t link to an email.
You can question my credibility all you want, believe what you want to believe and at the end of the day? It’s not going to change how I do things here. As has been pointed out to you in the past, if you think you can do a better job? I welcome you to do so. The blogosphere is big enough for the both of us.
Now if you’d like to comment on the original quote that Kevin DeWine is stated to have made? Cool, if not? I think we’ve discussed me enough for one day and I’m sure you’ll have plenty of future opportunities to critique me.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:26 amSure, just make sure that whoever ptb94 is gets his due as your source. gmail will love him
March 25th, 2009 at 10:35 ammindy wrote:
Read the blade, the stain pops up about that often there as well. The difference here is that criticism is allowed and those who don’t know the stain can get a better understanding.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:38 amI find it rather interesting that the left leaning paper seems to find reasons to write about the Republican chairman or get his take on legislation/debate much more than the like minded Democrat chairman. (jon must have quite the library of secret recordings on JR Block)As party chairman shouldn’t the focus be on the candidate/elected official rather than the chairman? This is another reason the stain and his candidates will never be successful.
And, I don’t give up either, Lisa.
If I’m wrong about this, tell me.
You received the same anonymous email, many of us did from ptb1994.gmail.com, in the dark of night.
There was no sustentative sourcing. It was just a clipped quote with no context other than ptb1994.gmail.com’s assertion that it was about Jon Stainbrook. You emailed the ORP for comment, and when none was immediately forthcoming, you posted the gist of the anonymous email from ptb1994.gmail.com, with a “no response from…”
How is this news????
Quite frankly, it sinks to the level of the Poe-Ditch-Pundit that started this in the first place.
Shoot the messenger? I think you got played..!
March 25th, 2009 at 10:38 amI have never posted the email name of the person sending something before, unless they have specifically requested it be shared as a part of the release, so while I appreciate the continued attempt to make it appear as if I did something different? It’s not true.
As to being played? Why do you think I emailed DeWine? You can pretend like Henri that someone as important as DeWine wouldn’t care if something was out there that he really didn’t say was posted here, but I think you are much smarter than that when it comes to how this works.
Once again, you can try to make this about me all you want, but that doesn’t change the simple facts of this situation. We have a quote from DeWine that he has not stated was not made. Which means as far as it stands now? It’s valid and I took steps to ensure he was aware of it before it was posted. It wasn’t stated as a private communication, I didn’t hack into anyone’s MySpace or use a “bug” or tape record someone without their consent. I did what I always do, and I provided additional information as to what sourcing attempts I made prior to posting.
End of story…Imagine how much you would accomplish if you took the time and the energy you spend here trying to discount me into making things better in Toledo.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:50 amThen you wouldn’t mind posting the text of the email you sent to Dewine…?
March 25th, 2009 at 10:54 amLisaRenee wrote:
The same could said about you Lisa. What’s your carbon footprint considering the vast amount of time your computer is on? If you are so concerned about being more green, really…
March 25th, 2009 at 10:54 amAll of this morning posting only confirms that the “Chairman’s” urchins are nothing more than an unemployment statistic.
Ohio Republican Party Chairman DeWine had an opportunity to defend Mr. Stainbrook, and instead of doing so he rather threw him under the bus, a first for a sitting county chairman.
Clayton – I too have heard that the ORP is waiting for somebody in Lucas County to go against Jon and the Blade to step up. I’ve got a pretty good feeling that this was a “Rally the Troops” statement put out by DeWine, more than anything.
March 25th, 2009 at 11:08 amRyan-
Glad you’re privy to my work hours…
BTW- I just received an anonymous email that you don’t get up to start posting because of your night-time porn habit. Care to comment?
March 25th, 2009 at 11:14 amPost # 36. is a reflection of the “Chairman’s” associates. Much like how Jon was working as a 40 year old pool boy, his urchins have likewise never been forced to grow up.
Did anyone catch the deleted scenes of “Step Brothers” when Will Ferrell became a County Party Chairman?
March 25th, 2009 at 11:35 amLisa, thank you for being a voice of reason in this endless parade of name-calling and off-topic comments. The simple fact is that DeWine is upset with Stainbrook, and this blog entry was posted to let the community know about the email that was received. A simple solution to this mess would be for Mr. Stainbrook to step down and bow out graciously, but given the nature of Stainbrook, I highly doubt this will end smoothly.
March 25th, 2009 at 11:40 amOh, My…turn my back for a moment…
Ryan…Unemployed?? I think not. I am gainfully employed thank you very much. Have been since about the ripe old age of 14.
Concerned… Why should Jon “step down and bow out” when the people have spoken and he was rightfully elected? Just because there are a few whiney malcontents? That’s just silliness!
So say whatever…Lisa continues to rack up the posts, not of her own acord…of course.
mj
March 25th, 2009 at 11:56 amWe also need you to confirm your annual gasoline usage, how many incandescent bulbs are still in use in your home, the number of times you flush your toilet per day and the ratio of recyclables:waste you produce each year. Also, I want copies of your tax records for the past 10 years.
Only then will I ever trust your opinion on whether or not it is ethical to tape-record individuals without their knowledge or permission, and to release that information to the media. Trust me, it’s completely related.
You can really tell when you’ve “won” the debate when individuals must resort to insults instead of the matter at hand.
ANYWAY on the topic at hand, I sincerely hope that Mr. Stainbrook takes this opportunity to cease his unethical practices.
March 25th, 2009 at 11:57 amWow, stain used to have so many supporters and now just 3. Have the rats abandoned the sinking ship or did the pied pipers flute break? Either way, the stain’s days are numbered as far as chairman goes. I bet the phones are burning up in Columbus with the stain demanding to know who DeWine thinks he is talking about the stain like that. I can see the blade headline tomorrow;
Stainbrook Demands State Boss Resign
‘Kevin DeWine will rue the day he
crossed paths with me’
Come on Chairman DeWine, don’t you know who the stain is? He can ruin you with one call to Pittsburg, just ask him – he’ll tell ya!
March 25th, 2009 at 11:59 amSince Lisa had some difficulty getting a response to the claims in the email, I contacted Jonathan Gormley at the ORP to ask about the veracity of the claim in the email.
He responded that GOP Chairman DeWine responded to the original communication from the same emailer and then provided a copy of that email.
Context is everything, so the entire content of the reference quote is as follows:
—–Original Message—–
From: Kevin DeWine
To: ptb1994@gmail.com
Sent: Thu Mar 19 22:28:41 2009
Subject: RE: Lucas County GOP
Just as secretive taping of conversations is distasteful, so are anonymous emails.
If you wish to discuss this topic in earnest then please do so with an identity and not merely an email address.
I will not disclose any personally identifying information.
Up to you…
Thank you for your genuine concern for the future of the Lucas Cty GOP.
March 25th, 2009 at 12:14 pm************
maxi-pad, rouge?
I knew I can count on you for your contribution. Granted that was fresh in 1973. But way to go using recycled material.
But you were always good at that.
Now, let’s see…was it the two mindy and henri neck deep in the Dewars and rouge that figured out the paddle, ball and string gig, or the other way around. It’s so predictable anymore, policing the site and all. lol
But one thing will always be constant, even on the State level. Skidmark is a douchebag and he can rely upon his three nitwits of blog patrol to defend his good name with even more ignorance and shennanagans.
Oh, and Lisa? Your clock is still an hour off. Thank you.
March 25th, 2009 at 12:20 pmThanks Maggie, I appreciate you providing the full context, that is what I would have preferred when all of this began. Context does matter, and now for those that claimed it was made up? It wasn’t, though it was also directed at anonymous emailers.
March 25th, 2009 at 12:22 pmThanks Brian, it’s fixed now.
March 25th, 2009 at 1:29 pmHey – I just got an anonymous email that said that Matthew Bartow is a felon and since it has been stated on this blog that rogue is Bartow, would you care to comment Matthew?
March 25th, 2009 at 1:46 pmI think we should be applauding Chairman DeWine and his associates at the ORP for their comments, and shedding light on this issue. Although I know it is not ORP policy to comment on local issues, they made the right decision on stepping in on this one. Given all of the current administration’s flubs, not even a year into office, it appears to be only a matter of time.
March 25th, 2009 at 1:48 pmWait, I found proof of some of that anonymous email
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061122/NEWS02/611220340
Come on rogue, tell us if you have been successful in completing your felony diversion program. Since you want to turn the subject on Lisa Renee lets put the spotlight on you for the moment.
March 25th, 2009 at 1:57 pmMindy, you make it appear that only a few people are disgruntled over the antics of Mr. Stainbrook, but as a Republican in Toledo who follows politics very closely, I can assure you that there are more than a handful of people who would willingly back up my argument for Stainbook to step down. Yes, he was elected into his position. However, if a political figure misuses or continually practices unethical behavior in said position, the figure should be removed. At first, I was impressed with Stainbrook’s efforts in recruiting so many people to run for LCRP Central Committee, but after many of these people were proven to be either Democrats or politically apathetic, I understood that these efforts did more harm than good. And now after a failed attempt to get a commissioner candidate on the ballot, secret tape recording of political insiders, many lawsuits, and random scuffles in the Blade, Stainbrook is becoming more of a liability than an asset. In the words of our illustrious President, it’s time for change.
March 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pmMeghan…
My gosh that link is more stale than the bread on my kitchen counter! That’s the best you can do?
And yet I am accused of repeating myself! As my morose teenager says, “whatever…”
March 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pmTempting as it may be, I’d advocate not taking the same tactic as those you disagree with doing. I could take steps to deal with the personal insults but I do give people more latitude in dissing me than I do others.
That said, that’s one of the downsides to not posting under your real name, once speculation begins that you are someone, it typically never ends until it’s revealed as true or untrue. It’s happened here, it’s happened on other local blogs and it’s happened since the very first days of the internet when people decided to be “anonymous”.
March 25th, 2009 at 2:34 pmI think all Lucas County Republican’s should applaud Chairmen Dewine for taking an interest in Lucas County politics and condemning Jon Stainbrook’s deplorable actions.
Lisa: Have you received an official response from Stainbrook? Please post if you receive one…better yet contact Stainbrook and request an official response. It’s the fair thing to do. Hopefully, Stainbrook will make time during his endless search for employment to respond.
March 25th, 2009 at 2:46 pmI did not support Jon for the sake of getting a job. The board of elections was making the decision as to who to hire. Being identified with Jon would have actually worked against me.
I supported him because, I don’t believe everything I read on blogs or the news. You should not believe everything you read about Jon because his enemies are wont to twist facts. And look at the character of a couple of Jon’s greatest detractors. Troy Neff? Chris Myers? Not exactly credible people, given their recent behavior.
The taping incident disturbed me, but I remained silent. The incident with Michael Miller was counter-productive to the party’s best interest. I also know Michael pretty well and he’s no Troy Neff or Chris Myers. Michael does not look for trouble, but I know from experience he will fight back if goaded. Jon goaded him for no good reason. It did not reflect well on him and it did not reflect well on the party.
I’m not calling for Jon’s ouster. I just won’t defend him anymore.
March 25th, 2009 at 2:47 pmThanks for trying to keep me on the high road Lisa Renee! Sometimes you just gotta roll in the gutter to clean out the crap.
March 25th, 2009 at 2:52 pmSpeaking of cleaning, looks like Mindy needs a few housekeeping tips!
Tip #1 To keep your home free of nasty pests like rodents, insects and felons keep your countertops free of old food.
Martha44 wrote:
Martha44 – You call suing people for a living an employment search?
March 25th, 2009 at 3:04 pmI did hear they are looking for help at the pool at Maumee River Yacht Club and he is an experienced poolboy so that may work out for him.
meghan wrote:
tell the truth Joann, I mean Meghan, this talk of cleaning is your way of saying you want help with your skin-funk, admit it…
March 25th, 2009 at 3:18 pmThere are days when I understand why some bloggers decide to moderate their comments…It would eliminate some of the immaturity.
March 25th, 2009 at 3:23 pmI’d like to personally thank DeWine for taking on this power-crazy chairman here in Lucas County. I’m getting sick of this newest incarnation of corruption in the LCRP. Since the presidential elections are over, I would wager that now would be a safe time to stage a coup against the Stain.
March 25th, 2009 at 4:40 pmGeesh you get a little busy for a coupla’ days…
Now that all of you dedicated Stainbrook drones (both of you) have clearly identified yourselves…….
Carry on.
March 25th, 2009 at 4:51 pmhenri wrote:
Haha! Nice try at deflecting!
March 25th, 2009 at 5:08 pmgood job Lisa, your ratings gambit has worked!!
March 25th, 2009 at 5:51 pmThanks for the laugh Brian. I do think it is interesting that Jon has always acted this way, yet you only now are disappointed in his behavior? It was him entrapping Wack a year ago that made me begin to question him. I have never entrapped someone with the purpose to to humiliate them later with the evidence. That is what Jon has done multiple times and is leading to his downfall today. Jon and I are on two ends of the spectrum and I don’t drink so I can’t be grouped with Troy.
(Sorry about the double post. Something was wrong with the system when I posted above. LR feel free to delete the one above)
March 25th, 2009 at 6:10 pmI’m still waiting for Jon to release the video, unedited, of our confrontation on the set of Conklin & Co.
Brian S. get off your high horse it doesn’t become you.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:19 pmChris you will be happy to know that I haven’t had a drink in over 2 months now. I am working the 12 step program 1 day at a time.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:21 pmchrismyers wrote:
REALLY?!?!?! While it may not count as entrapment in the legal definition of the word, what the f$*# do you call the whole sordid stunt you pulled on Jason Webber?
And, to top it off, he hadn’t done anything to you that you should be aiming to get him back for. Nice work Chris, I’m sure any coalition building you attempt with the YR’s will go as splendidly as your previous attempts at getting elected to the board!
March 25th, 2009 at 6:24 pmTroy-
March 25th, 2009 at 6:28 pmRemain above the ilk of Myers. He has just become a bitter malcontent amongst us … maybe it has something to do with his mail-order bride, according to another one of those anonymous emails.
Troy,
We’ll have to agree to disagree on whether or not I’m on a high horse.
However, I am happy for you that you are sober. I’ll say a prayer for you.
Henri, I agree with you that what Myers did was one of the most sordid things I’ve seen in politics. See? It’s possible to find common ground with almost anyone.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:57 pmOh come on Brian, most sordid? How about McCloskey, Noe, McConnell-Hancock? The list goes on. A bit hyperbolic I’d say.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:03 pmThanks Troy for the clarification.
Henri your explanation is quite ironic. The people who follow your comments here knows what type of person you really are.
Brian, I guess that means a lot coming from someone who participated then defended violating the Constitution. I guess for you to say that puts it into perspective.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:10 pmI don’t know what it means coming from a guy who violated the First Amendment and then admitted he made a mistake on public radio.
I admitted I erred. You should too. Frankly, I was “shocked” by your behavior much more than by anything Jon ever did. You are not the person I thought you were.
Had you pulled a stunt like that on me, you’d probably not have received the grief you are getting now. I was, and am, confrontational when the situation calls. However, Jason is just a good kid doing a hard job for less than half of what I got paid to do it. You had no rhyme or reason.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pmTroy, my boss just celebrated 17 years.
she said it flew by
not sure what the underlying meaning is, but that’s what she said.
still waiting for the blog patrol to stay on topic and not worry what posters feel and share their insight in what is turning into a tragic turn of events for the leader guy of the LCRP.
Gauging from a credible post, the bloviating has been nothing but smokescreen, especially from the genius worried about some one else’s site lol
henri, figure out that paddle and ball thing after the Dewars, or are you a natural?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:28 pmBrian Schwartz wrote:
I am not sure that was necessary, it does sound like a “high horse” comment.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:39 pmhenri wrote:
Was she Asian? I hear they make good ones.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:44 pmBecause I pray for people and I want him to stay sober. That’s all. Don’t read anything into it. If alcohol caused much of what happened to him, I want him to stay sober.
I don’t have anything against Tory. I don’t wish Troy any bad fortune. I hope things get better for him.
Jeez, can’t I be a nice guy just once?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:46 pmSorry, but you know how some of these lefties are about praying and all. It is not always politically correct.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:49 pmI pray and I’m proud of it.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:51 pmGood for you, and I hope BO will continue to allow it.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:53 pmBrian Maxson wrote:
OOH… I’m so not hurt… big bad maxi-pad (sorry Rogue) tries to make a funny at my expense.
What is it with you and your bottle of Dewars anyway? Some of us actually have better developed tastes than that.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:08 pmThe paddle-ball thing? We at Mensa were required to have that one down on the first day of pre-school, a$&-wipe.
Amateurs.
I apologize for trying to drag the thread off topic with my last comment. Brian and I disagree on what I did and I should not contribute to the back and forth behavior I also don’t like. It was fair for Brian to bring me up and fair for me to respond, but I should have left it at that. Sorry Lisa.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:41 pmseems you “overlooked” this part of my comment
Brian Maxson wrote:
amatuers my ass, occifer of the blogsite
March 25th, 2009 at 10:03 pmGood on ya’ Troy. One day at a time will get the job done. I’m praying for you too – but doesn’t sound like you need it.
Some of you guys are real asshats. Knock it off.
And yeah – if you’re thinking about asking if I mean you? Probably so…probably so….
March 25th, 2009 at 10:12 pmhenri wrote:
For the record – you’re full of crap. I know Chris Myers’ wife and she’s an educated, intelligent and remarkable woman. That was a ridiculous comment.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:35 pmOkay, there have been a variety of insults, retorts, and one apology.
The thread is now at 83 comments, so I think it’s the perfect time to end the discussion on this topic. Had I been home, I would have stepped in earlier.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:52 pmI missed Dave’s comments.
Dave, I don’t think it was hyperbolic. I would not defend the actions of any of the people you named. However, each had self enrichment and/or self preservation in mind.
What Chris did was just mean and hurtful with no purpose or end game.
I think highly of you. I hope you return to the Republican fold. I don’t care where Chris goes, but I wouldn’t want him in any Republican Party I’m a part of. Hurting people for no good reason other than to hurt them is just sadistic.
March 25th, 2009 at 11:07 pmLisaRenee wrote:
This thread might have set the record for finger-pointing and insults on the internet, if not at least on this blog.
March 26th, 2009 at 3:54 amReading Stainbrook threads are an acquired skill, you have to look at what was not mentioned. Chiefly, none of his groupies attempted to refute the fact the ORP is pissed, nor refute that Kevin DeWine made an exception to a long-standing “stay out of local affairs” rule to chastise their glorious leader.
That is telling. It seems they are aware of the numerous conversations DeWine has had with local folks regarding a replacement. It seems they’re aware that the ORP fronts with self-congratulatory “thanks for all the phone calls and the impressive 34%” calls while having entirely different private conversations with the functioning (read: successful) core of the local GOP.
They’re fine with all of this and try to deflect anger toward Lisa, Chris Myers, Brian Schwartz, Dave Schulz, etc. because they’re hopeful they can ride this out just long enough to get their dream jobs at the Board of Elections.
My prediction: Stainbrook will be lifeguarding this time next year and the GOP will be gearing up for the statewide elections with a new leader.
March 26th, 2009 at 7:24 amThanks Kate. I agree with your assessment. It does show a lot about a person’s character when they insult your spouse by calling her “mail order” for no reason and out of the blue.
March 26th, 2009 at 7:39 amSoap Box wrote:
They are going to need a new leader. From what I have heard none of the statewide candidates are wanting to work with the stain. The taping incident was his demise. Having worked in Columbus I know the behind the back stuff is brutal and word spreads very fast. DeWine must be trying to put something together, lets hope he does it soon!
March 26th, 2009 at 7:56 amMy, what an ugly thread. All I can add is that if Stainbrook was effective as a party leader, we would have seen little if any of this public bickering. Even the Dems – with their A, B, and occasional C Teams – do not engage in anywhere near the level of public mudslinging to be found on this thread alone.
Stainbrook may have some interesting ideas and an ability to politically motivate the denizens of Headliners and Frankies, but he exhibits zero credibility as a leader who can achieve either party consensus or strong-armed troop-marshalling. He has had plenty of time to begin this process, but all he has done since the coup d’état is further alienate party members.
That, and to provide comic relief to political observers.
When I spent a few hours with him in the summer of 2005, I am glad I said nothing of value to the tape recording poolboy beyond the fact that I used to deliver pizzas as a side gig. This, of course, the Stained One felt compelled to include in court proceedings as some sort of smoking gun in his attacks on my credibility as a journalist.
Lord only knows what electronic weirdness he might have concocted if I mentioned anything more personal in nature. The taping of Joanne Wack and her peeling skin – which Stainbrook posted and described as “skin funk” – was among the most idiotic and bizarre chapters in Stainbrook’s prurient career as a would-be political Johnny Knoxville. This sort of deceptive nonsense – getting people to let down their guard so he can find anything to later use against them – has no place in the elected leaders of a major party, and any legitimate party boss would clamp down on underlings engaging in this sophomoric stupidity.
That is, unless they had video of acts involving live boys or dead women, as the infamous Edwin Edwards once opined.
March 26th, 2009 at 9:14 amMaggie wrote:
While it may appear that the ORP is condemning the stain, what everyone here has overlooked from this message Maggie posted is the chairman’s admonishing the anonymous emailer… Gee, “please do so with an identity”.
Does everyone in town like the chair of the LCRP? No. Do they have to? No. The fact that he has recorded conversations probably comes from having people falsely accuse you of everything and anything. Just going out on a limb there.
The chairman may have his detractors, but then, he’s no Tom Noe (thank God). Yeah, he sure helped the standing of the local party with his disgraceful antics. Remember him? Maybe not, he’s in prison now…the wife, in the Keys. You gotta love Florida’s homestead protection rule… How about Sam & Maggie, more fine, upstanding area Republicans…wonder how the payments are going on those fines… Hmm, anyone missing? Oh yeah, then there’s Donna, et al…
March 26th, 2009 at 9:16 amhenri wrote:
I can certainly understand why the emailer would like to remain anonymous. With stainbrooks penchant for lawsuits and attempts to destroy those who disagree with him, not many can afford the legal fees or the personal destruction. Many of us are still fortunate enough to have jobs and many employers would not look favorably on their employees being dragged down the mud road in the blade.
The attempts to detract from the subject are interesting. Obviously stainbrook has done nothing his supporters can defend so they lamely attempt to throw others under the bus. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, none of them were party chairman attempting to destroy fellow Republicans.
The R’s in Lucas County (and Ohio) would be well served by Columbus if they find a way to make positive change in the chairmanship. Already John Kasich wants nothing to do with stainbrook and I’m sure the same can be said for other statewide 2010 hopefuls. Good luck with you efforts Chairman DeWine, we will pray for your success!
March 26th, 2009 at 10:25 amGood Morning, All,
Nice post Henri, I think that summed things up nicely!
Meghan…I thought you were taking the “high road” way back on post #54 and stepping away from the fray…but by #88 temptation obviously proved too much…oh well, perhaps next time you will be able to follow through.
I do have another question for you and I do understand you do not owe me an answer, but here goes: With all your experience and all your connections and knowledge, why don’t you share this with fellow Republicans? Does your dislike of the chairman out weigh your dedication to other Repbilicans? Are you that selfish or just bitter at losing an election? I mean, really, anyone can just sit back and complain…if you don’t like how things are… why not work within the system to effect change?
mj (real name…not nome de plume de jour)
March 26th, 2009 at 10:25 amThat Sir John, is the never ending question surrounding anonymous commenting and emails. Some do it to protect their identity, especially if they feel there is a valid concern that they would be targeted for expressing their opinion, I think this thread demonstrates what happens when a person is known and it’s been proven as this thread also demonstrates, that most of those willing to be the most insulting do so from behind an anonymous name.
This also shows that DeWine did make the statement though right from the initial posting on this, it was clearly stated that the total context was not known. The other point to this is I know people who have told me that they have spoken to DeWine about the Lucas County Republican Party, as well as the previous chair, nothing was done before, so it’s a bit disingenuous to use the excuse that he doesn’t want to address this because it came from an anonymous source when named sources have raised these same concerns with him.
It’s an easy out. What made this “newsworthy” was this was the first documentation that could be pointed to that DeWine had an opinion. It’s totally understandable to not feel anonymous sources are as credible as named sources, but the original email that DeWine responded to was not all anonymous claims, it cited examples of media reporting and named people who were targeted/involved as evidence.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:37 amBrian,
Thank you. I just have trouble getting outraged anymore. I see both sides (your side especially) of the Weber-gate and it seems things have worked out ok. I am not defending Chris on it nor am I going to dump on him like others.
Soap Box what are you smoking? Don’t lump me in wanting a BOE job, no thanks. Never, ever was interested in it.
March 26th, 2009 at 12:49 pmAh, it’s good to be back after another day of thwarting the will of the people.
I am humored by ferocity of the posts trying to rip one another in a vain attempt to rip Stainbrook.
The truth is that ORP Chairman is 100% behind Jon Stainbrook, and told him that personally, on Tuesday. The long list of naysayers, and whiners (anonymous & not) have been given all due courtesy by the officers and staff of the ORP, … and that is all. Jon Stainbrook is the duly elected and recognized chairman of the LCRP, and that’s, that!
The anonymous email was nefarious, and the response to it, was a mistake. The people behind it actually lost stature with the ORP, and Chairman DeWine has a better appreciation for what Stainbrook deals with, in terms of sophomoric fraternity pranks perpetrated by has-been, never-gonna-be outcasts of the republican party.
And any candidate for statewide office can ignore the Lucas County Republican Party at their own risk. If Kasich can’t work Stainbrook, then I dare say he can’t work with other individuals, and that would make for a lousy governor. So, my guess is, if Kasich is running, he’ll be running with Stainbrook next to him.
So, in conclusion, stupid email, the response taken out of context, and two days of hurling insults at each other…and nothing has changed.
Welcome to Toledo
March 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pmI was wondering when you were going to mention Columbus, Rouge,interesting description of what you were told took place.
March 26th, 2009 at 2:27 pmDear Rogue:
I’m glad your talking about maturity now. Maybe, the Rogue Republican’s will stop sending out fake central committee cancellation notices to CC members. Maybe they can stop using auto-dialers to try to impress the BIG BOYS in Columbus and actually do the work themselves—with the hoards of viable volunteers you have recruited. lol
Rogue who are you kidding?? Stainbrook and yourself are an absolute joke–everywhere. The only R’s in the county (Wagoner and Sears) won’t even associate with you. See if Dewine will EVER make a joint appearance with you…
I really get kick out of you trying to intimidate Kasich to “permit” you guys to help…I’m sure he’s shaking…Maybe you guy’s can offer to be his campaign treasurer’s? Now, that would get him scared.
By the way, how’s the LCRP fundraising going? I can’t help myself for asking…I know you guy’s are too busy just trying to purchase your first homes at your tender ages (according to AREIS) to worry about fundraising for the party.
March 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pmMartha44 wrote:
From the first word, to the last, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Carry on..
March 26th, 2009 at 3:19 pmMartha44 wrote:
Martha, if this isn’t the best example of a WTF posting, I don’t know what is…
March 26th, 2009 at 3:30 pmCALL 119!! CALL 119!! SMOKE MEANS FIRE!!!
Stainbrook and yourself are an absolute joke–everywhere. The only R’s in the county (Wagoner and Sears) won’t even associate with you. See if Dewine will EVER make a joint appearance with you…
yep, even I understood it.
says a lot about the Skidmark Blog Patrol® lol
March 26th, 2009 at 4:08 pmrogue wrote:
Prove it — release the tape.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:55 pmDave Schulz wrote:
Dave-
I guess I didn’t properly articulate my point. I intended:
-Jon Stainbrook and his crew are unemployed. They think the holy grail of life is working at the BOE, and view this chairmanship as their “in.”
-Stainbrook’s incompetence is impeding their ability to get their dream jobs, and as such, they attempt to change the subject by casting insults at people like Chris Myers or you.
Hope that clears it up.
In any case, I commend Chairman Dewine for his private conversations with numerous individuals in which he has indicated his great annoyance with Stainbrook and a desire to shake things up. I am glad he has one public quote on the record. I just wish he’d stop fronting Stainbrook because it has made Jon and his merry crew feel relevant when the ORP in honesty dislikes him.
March 26th, 2009 at 8:39 pmI re-read it. Sorry my bad. Sometimes you read too quickly and don’t read it right. Sorry again.
March 26th, 2009 at 9:29 pmmindy wrote:
Several reasons Mindy, I do understand I do not owe you an answer but am providing one anyway. Small children and husbands tend to get in the way of a 24/7 job like politics, I have both and since I like them I choose to spend time with them. I also have a real job now which also leaves little time for campaigning. I worked and volunteered in politics, back in the 90s and early this decade, I did work with the stain on campaigns along with his then girlfriend Andrea so I understand how a person can think he is a great guy and just wants to do the right thing, someday you will learn. For this particular time in my life I vote and thats about all I have time for. I still have many friends (connections) in politics and we still communicate, so I have a pretty good understanding of what is going on with the local party, the way the stain became chairman is a joke and so was the blades coverage. You want the real story you call others and ask questions.
March 27th, 2009 at 8:00 amMeghan,
Thank you for your reply. While I am sure you have interesting stories to share, it remains most difficult connecting with people that use an alias.
Like you, I have a family and a “real” job, but still try to do my part to assist the cause.
Since I do use my real name when posting, its easy to know who I am…so I suppose I will have to let folks like you contact me to share those interesting insights.
Thanks again for your response.
mj
March 27th, 2009 at 8:45 amfor you intellectually inept Blog Patrol that thought they had called Lisa on the carpet about garnering hits just to “kick her rating up” in the Blogosphere, she’s still sitting at number 4, even after one hundred and six posts.
So to Henri, rouge and mindy j, y’all can go back into your hole now and wait for the next Skidmark Thread to rear your ugly heads to smother us in your ignorance…again.
And yet still no comment from the Blog Patrol about documentation otherwise to show Stainbrook and Dewine in cordial correspondence.
Must not exist.
March 27th, 2009 at 3:56 pmmindy wrote:
I never said I was interested in “connecting” with you and I also never said I use an alias. Rather large assumption on your part.
March 27th, 2009 at 4:17 pmMartha44 wrote:
I completely understand and I bet rogue does as well. Thanks for the laugh Martha44!
March 27th, 2009 at 7:18 pmJon has a Warren Harding problem. His friends are a much greater liability to him than his enemies. I wish he’d learn that.
March 27th, 2009 at 8:12 pmYes, I’m sure Carty, Jim, Kathy, Troy, and even Chris consider you a valuable asset.
Jon’s only lesson learned was about you, brian!
March 28th, 2009 at 11:32 amI don’t know about Carty. Chris and I were never friends. I had dinner with Jim last night and Kathy the Thursday before.
March 28th, 2009 at 6:55 pmrogue wrote:
henri wrote:
mindy wrote:
pssst, Mindy, henri mussed up your guys talking points and mentioned the ratings would drop. Time to sanction the rebel.
nope…three days later and it’s still number 4.
so come on, don’t police the site, don’t keep belittling posters because you clowns have nothing to back up anything you guys say, show us some facts…show us the cordial correspondence that does not exist between DeWine and Stainbrook.
Come here with that worthless credibility and spewing nothing.
explains why Jon has you merry band of nitwits as colleagues, makes him appear smarter, and with the posts that each of you left behind, it’s clear proof that he achieved his goal.
March 28th, 2009 at 9:44 pmMaxson you are such a suck butt, are you on the rum again?
March 28th, 2009 at 11:05 pmyou are an ill-informed little tubesteak tarzan, as usual. worry not about my agenda and focus on making a relevant post anywhere on this site consisting of something more than suspicion.
you won’t look like that sniviling little douchebag that pops up like a weasel that contributes nothing but trolling.
unless, of course, that’s who you are.
and don’t thrive off things your boyfriend assumed existed. I don’t drink for entertainment. remember, he’s the one that got caught, 30 times, with both drugs and alcohol, and I have zero.
so just move along…for only 18 more months. then perhaps you can resume your torrid relationship with that stainless steel buffing professional and contribute something with meat in it. lol
March 29th, 2009 at 6:02 amSigh…Okay as a closing thought to this thread, those that thought that posting about Jon was some attempt to increase ratings should note that the weekly rankings that came out last night after midnight show GCJ is an 8.
This should prove as a further demonstrating point that one post, especially one about Jon Stainbrook does nothing to increase ratings/rankings here.
March 29th, 2009 at 12:14 pmLisa-
Rankings really don’t matter much to me. However, the fairness of how certain topics/postings/posters are treated is an interest.
You regularly admonish those who disagree with you for not being nice, and even edit them, but let a friend such as Maxson post his ignorant, insulting drivel as he did in #114, and say nothing. Hmmm… frankly, your silence proves a point. Thank you.
As for Maxson, his inability to disagree with a poster in an articulate, intelligent manner truly speaks volumes of his character.
March 29th, 2009 at 3:19 pmbe glad you don’t have your own blogsite, henri lol
and your judgement of me is based on my responses to your own ignorance, so you’re biased.
So I care less what you think of me and my character, henri.
and still not posting on the topic of the thread, instead you worry about my comments to someone other than you.
I already know the type of weasel you are, so I’m grateful our paths will never cross.
but quite Dr Phil to label the relationship between Lisa and I as “friend” based on my postings on her blogsite. I am a huge fan of hers and enjoy participating on her site.
Try “alike thinker” instead.
Friends are people that have relationships based in real life and I’ve yet to meet her.
March 29th, 2009 at 4:24 pmBrian Maxson wrote:
Like I said maxson you are a real suck butt. I challenge you to show one comment where you disagreed with her.
March 29th, 2009 at 4:59 pmI usually do not post on a thread if I disagree with the site owner. I typically allow, as a reader for information, the levity of her views and on the threads I respond to her on our views are alike.
Never have I posted on a thread anything without refering to the topic of the thread, except when dealing with personal attacks. Then I excersize my creative side.
And there are several occassions where I’ve disagreed via posting with Lisa, but I do not have the inclination to delve into the archives to appease your whim.
I think what cracks me up is the snide remarks and attacks on Lisa when she posts things that some people have issue with, yet when they’re called to the carpet by someone other than Lisa, they whine like little bitches.
You can dish it out but can’t take it. Just like yer buddy.
The Blog Patrol will make any excuse to try and make a mountain out of a molehill yet still fail to address the topic of the thread.
March 29th, 2009 at 8:49 pmBrian Maxson wrote:
And yet, Brian, you consider yourself a friend according to both yours and Lisa’s Facebook pages…
March 29th, 2009 at 9:37 pmps – nice shades.
Henri – you are stalking me on Facebook to see who my “friends” are? That’s kind of creepy…
Not Again and Brian are capable of dealing with their own interpersonal insult exchanges. Should it happen? No, but I try to not have to jump in when it’s two people that I know are both capable of dishing and taking it.
I do happen to be in California Henri, so you’ll have to excuse me if I don’t want to spend as much time playing mom, and instead am enjoying spending time with my oldest daughter. Frankly, if you have such issues with this blog? Quit visiting and commenting. I’m sure we’ll somehow survive the loss of your “contributions”….
March 30th, 2009 at 12:51 amwow LOL henri
you consider being a “friend” on an online social site as a relationship in real life?
you really are this stupid, aren’t you, envious douchebag stalker boy?
it definately explains a lot about what you are, that’s for sure.
musta pissed you off that you couldn’t access my friends list, huh?
cuz I know as stupid as you are here, I can only imagine that same stupidity couldn’t allow you to stop at scoping out Lisa’s page lol
so quit trying to put labels on things you obviously know nothing about.
freak, “police” this lol
March 30th, 2009 at 5:11 amby the way, henri, in case you missed it, there was a point to this event.
you and your cronies think it’s cool to come here and attack Lisa because she’s not like you, and when someone comes to give you assclowns the same treatment, you expect safeharbor from the same person you attack.
that’s how stewpid you are.
March 30th, 2009 at 5:26 amWow…Maxi-pad!
Off your meds…?
While I’m sure your “friends” are precious and few, the truth is, a man of your prose probably doesn’t need to waste time on social network sites, right?
Even a cursory look at your post portfolio, one would be hard pressed to say that you add anything substantive other than insults.
But I like you Maxi! Because, regardless of how many brain cells I kill drinking with Bartow (he buys shots every time his mugshot is posted here), I’ll still be smarter than you.
Carry on….
March 30th, 2009 at 7:19 amLisaRenee wrote:
This, you consider creepy, but not longer after I began blogging here, you posted a response to me that “only you and I know who I am”, and you pointed out that you found some rather interesting info on me online…creepy indeed!!!!
Shoe is on the other foot now, and you and your buddy don’t like it!
March 30th, 2009 at 7:38 amBummer.
Oh, wait, you were just being a good journalist right? I forgot. Otherwise you wouldn’t be doing your ‘best’ if you didn’t do your detective work-albeit selectively…
As for your little sojourn to Cali- the land of fruits and nuts can keep you for all I care. I’m sure you are very comfortable in those environs.
As for playing mom, thanks, but I REALLY have to pass. I much prefer the one I’ve got, warts and all, in her cozy expanse in the ‘burbs to National, thanks.
March 30th, 2009 at 7:48 am“Henri, let me give you an example of what is quick and easy to find, take your email address, which only you or I know, and google it. In a matter of seconds, it’s easy to find out quite a bit of information on one person.”
January 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
This is what YOU posted, Lisa. You’re right, kinda creepy…
March 30th, 2009 at 9:10 amthere’s a huge difference between you leaving your IP address on her site and having the site owner research who you are and your intentions after attacking her compared to making an individual attempt to search out and exploit based on revenge and envy. You made the effort to research and seek out and then try and check me out, and I’m laughing at your ability to define the difference. LOL Those be RayBans, btw. Really nice ones.
And what’s with this journalist label you keep trying to attach to her. I’d love for you to show me where she pronounces herself to be a journalist.
She’s already shown that she can maintain the site anywhere, henri, so where she posts from is irrelevant. But it’s those snide remarks that just ache to break free. Shame you can’t just participate instead of antagonize. But you are who you are, right?
You should be grateful she doesn’t share who you are with the rest of us. At least she’s respectful towards you to keep your identity a secret.
and “mom”, in the sense that she uses, means babysitting her blogsite. It is her site, contrary to what you believe in your own head.
You keep showing how stupid you are on your own terms, henri.
and I enjoy pointing it out.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:12 amBrian Maxson wrote:
You’re assuming I couldn’t. Who’s the stupid one now? As rogue commented, your friends are precious and few… it is a short list.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:27 amoh, and rouge, constantly repeating that maxi pad thing does nothing but show how truly intelligent you are.
well done.
I think it’s cute that you have to find yourself in competition with me just to be somebody.
why you feel you have to be smarter than me is beyond my comprehension. You care way more about me than I do you.
And if you really did pay attention, you’d know I’m more than just insults when I post here. But then I consider how stewpid you are and it all makes sense.
Just because you think you’re smarter than me doesn’t mean you can wrap your head around how truly more intelligent I am to you. See, rouge, the difference between stupid and smart is how close you pay attention. And attention is about to pull a repo on you.
but enjoy the realm you dwell within. lol
March 30th, 2009 at 11:32 amLOL whatever fruit loop
if you had paid attention to his post, it references something completely different
I see the repo man visiting you too
and as far as social networking sites, I see you’re sitting in front of your computer too, genius. lol
March 30th, 2009 at 11:33 amoh dear, how does that saying go? oh yeah:
“When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him”.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:38 amOh, Maxi…I don’t think i need you to give me a difinition of “smart”, “stupid”, or anything else, for that matter.
You may want to try some fresh air, those few brain cells you have could use it.
Carry on…
March 30th, 2009 at 11:41 amBM-
You really are hung up on intelligence, and assuming you have the upper hand when it comes to grey matter.
Just as you are hung up on attempting to patrol and defend Lisa’s site for her. What is it, an Oedipus Complex?
Do us all a favor and take your random, rambling thoughts on a vacation. For a freakin long time, while you’re at it…
March 30th, 2009 at 11:43 amThis thread is a prime example of how things go off topic, go personal and each one of those who has decided to trade barbs/insults is responsible, it takes at least two people, sometimes more, who then always have their own justifications as to why they felt they had to respond to whatever insulting was written, with at times insults of their own. I’ve attempted to get this thread back on topic several times, it’s clear that the original topic has been discussed, the context has been provided and it is now finished.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:51 amRogue must be drinking alone again.
March 30th, 2009 at 12:51 pmoh yea? wrote:
No, he never drinks alone since he always has bartow with him…
March 30th, 2009 at 2:43 pmI have to admit I am astonished that this is still being commented on even though it is waaayyy off topic. Lets save the rest of our thoughts for the next stain event, I’m sure he will have another taping session soon.