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Ohio Democratic Party response to Palin…

29 Aug 2008

This in via email:

Ohio Democratic Party Executive Director Doug Kelly issued the following statement today on John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin to be his running mate:

“As voters in Dayton and Youngstown wish him a happy 72nd birthday, John McCain has placed the former mayor of a town of 9,000 just a heartbeat away from the presidency. John McCain’s entire campaign has been based on the argument that experience matters, but Sarah Palin doesn’t have any. Today’s announcement was an act of political desperation by the McCain campaign, but it does not alter the fact that the Republican ticket promises Ohioans more of the same.”

70 Responses to “Ohio Democratic Party response to Palin…”

  1. 1
    Tami N Says:

    Ooops. Someone forgot to tell Doug Kelly she is Governor of the largest geographic state in the US.

  2. 2
    LisaRenee Says:

    Current population of Alaska according to 2006 Census numbers – 670,053

    Which adds a new prediction, someone who is the Governor of a state with a small population doesn’t have the experience.

    Does this mean someone who is elected as Senator to a small state would face the same questions? Total population of Delaware: 853,476 Biden represents half of those. Thus, is it then an issue that Biden represents less people as a Senator than Palin does as Governor?

  3. 3
    LisaRenee Says:

    Tami, they know that – they are working on the message of her lack of experience. Which will be interesting to follow because they can’t hit her too hard without it backfiring on to Obama or in this case? Biden.

  4. 4
    Not Again Says:

    Ohio Democratic Party Executive Director Doug Kelly must be an incompetent fool for that statement.

  5. 5
    LisaRenee Says:

    Well, if you didn’t realize she was now the Governor of Alaska, you might think that only being the Mayor of a town of 9,000 would be a huge issue.

    Though that really only adds to how hard she must have worked to have been elected Governor considering she was the Mayor of a small town and even more surprising she has a 90% approval rating.

    So, it probably doesn’t portray the message they want to create in the minds of those who matter, which is voters who have not yet made up their minds.

  6. 6
    Jill Says:

    Lisa Renee – being a US Senator is a statewide position so everyone votes for or against Biden. I’m not sure it’s really accurate to say he only represents half of the state, do you think? How would you decide on which half?

    Also – Palin’s approval ratings apparently are in the 80s currently.

  7. 7
    LisaRenee Says:

    Jill – logic dictates if you have two compared to one simple division could apply.

    States don’t elect two governors.

  8. 8
    neighborhood concerns Says:

    “Before becoming governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council from 1992 to 1996, was elected mayor of Wasilla in 1996.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

    “Lawmakers will hire someone within a week to investigate whether Governor Sarah Palin abused her power in firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. The legislative council approved 100,000 dollars for the investigation that will find out whether Palin was angry at Monegan for not firing an Alaska State Trooper who went through a messy divorce with Palin’s sister”

    http://www.ktva.com/ci_10026165

  9. 9
    Jill Says:

    But he has a allegiance to them all, just like the Governor. I’ll respectfully disagree on this one – I wouldn’t divide up the number of people for whom he’s responsible in that way – the house of representatives is proportional that way, but not the Senate, the way I think of it – which of course, could be just me.

  10. 10
    LisaRenee Says:

    It’s going to be interesting to watch Palin be attacked, considering so far some of the comments made against her have been designed to demean/diminish her accomplishments as a woman. Apparently accomplishments only matter if you are a Democratic woman or wait, a truly progressive woman.

    Not to mention having to deal with the Hickman attacks.

    Then again, I guess that’s to be expected considering some of the same people stated Bill Clinton was “creepy”.

  11. 11
    neighborhood concerns Says:

    “Prominent Alaska Natives met with state political leaders Tuesday in Anchorage to discuss what should be done to fix rural Alaska’s energy crisis.

    Residents in some remote villages are paying up to $3,500 per month for fuel, and a recent vote by the Alaska Senate to slash Gov. Sarah Palin’s proposed energy rebate from $1,200 to $500 is deeply disappointing, according to some Native leaders who spoke at the meeting.”

    http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/485092.html

  12. 12
    LisaRenee Says:

    Jill, it was a simple comparison not a factual one. I thought it would be pretty clear to see I what I was saying related to the population numbers. Now, if you’d prefer, we can state we have one Governor with executive experience over 670,053 people and one Senator with legislative experience over 853,476 people. How large of an issue are 183,423 people?

  13. 13
    Jill Says:

    Zero. I just wanted a reason to comment. It’s been a while.

  14. 14
    Chris Says:

    Lisa, what comments have you seen so far that were intended to “demean/diminish her accomplishments as a woman”?

  15. 15
    LisaRenee Says:

    It’s always nice to see you here, and thanks for the correction on her approval rating. I didn’t verify what was stated earlier.

  16. 16
    LisaRenee Says:

    Look around the Ohio blogosphere Chris, and you missed some of the stuff that was posted by a person who has been banned from here for making personal attacks/threats.

    I’ve seen quite a few comments just on some of the Ohio blogs that fit the description of demean/diminish as well as a few posts.

    Disagreeing with or attacking her positions is one thing, but there are even suggestions out there that Cindy McCain should be worried because Palin is younger and prettier.

  17. 17
    Rockets Man Says:

    As a huge supporter for Hillary Clinton and still is (she should be the nominee), McCain is looking very good since he selected Ms. Palin. Biden didn’t do any justice for me when Obama picked him and it’s going to be an interesting decision for me to decide on Nov. 4.

  18. 18
    Not Again Says:

    # 9 Jill Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    “But he has a allegiance to them all,…”

    No, his allegiance is to himself and Democrats, in that order.

  19. 19
    neighborhood concerns Says:

    “Despite tax increase, oil profits rise

    Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Share Act was passed by the Legislature last fall at the request of Gov. Sarah Palin, who said the previous Petroleum Profits Tax was “tainted” by corruption. Some legislators are now serving federal prison time for their role in its passage.

    The revelation of the increased profits comes in financial disclosures filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission by ConocoPhillips Co. and BP over the last several months and reviewed by the Empire.

    Driving the state’s increased revenue, while allowing the company profits to remain high is the structure of the new tax. It is a production tax, calculated before profits are figured. That means some of the state’s increased production tax revenue comes at the expense of state and federal income taxes, which actually declined for both companies. ”

    http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/072108/loc_307197582.shtml

  20. 20
    LisaRenee Says:

    Rockets, you aren’t alone in feeling that way from those I’ve talked to today. Those that are still confirmed Obama supporters are still confirmed Obama supporters, but those that were not sure? At least at this early outset, McCain made a rather bold decision that has gotten their attention.

  21. 21
    Rockets Man Says:

    I was not happy the way Hillary was treated in the primaries and caucases as we ALL know that she garnered the populated, important U.S. states and the delegates/superdelegates were hyping Obama up. The delegates/superdelegates does NOT reflect when the American public feels. Once Obama got the threshold for nomination, I was hoping he pick Hillary for VP because of her platform and what she represents since it provides a nice balance for the Obama/Clinton ticket. (You wanna know why Ohio picked Hillary, go-figure)

    Well Obama didn’t pick Hillary but picked a senator from a state of Delaware which didn’t do any justice for me. Doesn’t the DNC ever learn their lesson when it comes to lifelong-career U.S. Senators/Reps being picked for VP spot? (I.e. Bentsen, Ferraro, Lieberman, Edwards and now Biden) See why Gore and Kerry didn’t win, but yet Slick Willie Clinton did (he was governor). 9.9 out of 10 times you always have to balance the President/VP ticket to appeal to the public wich Obama would be better off picking a governor or a major US city mayor. IMHO, the American public are turned off by the beltway politicians.

    It will be a rather interesting presidential election in a long time especially in my lifetime.

  22. 22
    ronkorsog Says:

    Watching people scurring around trying to find negative things to say about the republican vp choice is amazing. The democrats had their chance to pick a woman and they passed. Now they want to try to throw dirt on someone who appears to be a candidate who is not the usual career politician. I think it is a refreshing change.

  23. 23
    Hillary 2012 Says:

    typical sexist comments are already starting

    no wonder hillary fans don’t like obama

  24. 24
    ronkorsog Says:

    She and her husband have both been union members during their working careers. What unions do you think Obama and Biden ever belonged to? But yet the leadership of most of the unions will be solidly behind Obama/Biden. The rank and file might think differently though.

  25. 25
    Chris Says:

    “She and her husband have both been union members during their working careers.”

    So I’m sure she supports the Employee Free Choice Act, eh?

  26. 26
    LisaRenee Says:

    I don’t support the loss of the ability of a secret ballot when it comes to deciding if a company wants a union. Having actually experienced/seen what happens when retaliation happens? There are times when a secret ballot could be important.

    In fact, our very voting system despite the caucuses are based on one person, one vote, in private.

  27. 27
    Not Again Says:

    # # 24 ronkorsog Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    “She and her husband have both been union members during their working careers. What unions do you think Obama and Biden ever belonged to? But yet the leadership of most of the unions will be solidly behind Obama/Biden. The rank and file might think differently though.”

    Good point, the union leadership is always looking to get handouts. The rank and file is not interested in funding the programs these socialist have in mind.

    Obama and Biden are professional politicians and have never had a real job.

  28. 28
    Chris Says:

    Lisa, if it’s a secret ballot you’re concerned about….then surely you’d be upset to know that unions can be decertified with card-check (no secret ballot). Shouldn’t there be a secret ballot for that process too? Besides, EFCA allows workers to have a secret ballot if they want one. It just puts the process in the hands of the workers instead of the bosses.

  29. 29
    LisaRenee Says:

    Chris, do you truly believe that the only threats and pressure come from companies? Have you ever worked at a place that attempted to unionize and failed? Maintaining a secret ballot by both sides is the only way that no matter how an individual worker feels they are not pressured by either side.

  30. 30
    LisaRenee Says:

    My point is, that there are valid concerns with EFCA, there are valid concerns with the present system as well, but that does not mean in it’s present form it’s a given people support EFCA or that if they don’t support EFCA as it is written means they are anti-union.

    I try not to be a hypocrite whenever possible, so I believe a secret ballot should apply in both situations…just as I’d love to see the caucus system eliminated. One person, one vote in private…

  31. 31
    GuestZero Says:

    LisaRenee, I remember what you said in that line at Krogers. You sure called this one correctly. I now consider the the election to be OVER. Too many women will vote the McCain/Palin ticket. The swing is now too strong … unless the superdels wise up and choose Hillary.

    Is it Constitutional for Hillary to pick Billy Boy as her Veep? :^o

  32. 32
    LisaRenee Says:

    lol – it was nice seeing you.

  33. 33
    Not Again Says:

    I just saw the replay of the Palin speech on Fox News and I was greatly impressed with her. I had tears in my eyes. Of course, no one was around to see my lashes fall off. I think she could be president some day.

    McCain is a bold and audacious leader! And the dems are dead meat!

  34. 34
    Chris Says:

    That’s fine Lisa. My point was that with EFCA, employees can still have a secret ballot if they want one. But the workers should decide how it’s certified, not management.

  35. 35
    Not Again Says:

    The workers shouldn’t decide shit Chris. The company owners shouldn’t be controlled by the workers, silly.

  36. 36
    voter Says:

    HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYY BRIAN M, NO COMMENT FOR MMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE ABOUT THE GREEN MAN WITH PUKE ON HIM??????????????

  37. 37
    toledojim Says:

    She’s already done more as governor of Alaska and as a mayor than the overrated community organizer from Illinois has done in his lifetime.

  38. 38
    TShak Says:

    I can just see NoBama now…..”WAIT – WAIT – I didn’t say Biden – I said Sebelius…. Is it too late for a do over – come on – this is my first try at this – do over – do over!!!!!”

  39. 39
    kateb Says:

    This was a brilliant move by the RNC. I also consider the election a done deal.

  40. 40
    Not Again Says:

    # # 37 toledojim Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
    “She’s already done more as governor of Alaska and as a mayor than the overrated community organizer from Illinois has done in his lifetime.”

    Very good, and very true.

  41. 41
    Not Again Says:

    # # 39 kateb Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
    “This was a brilliant move by the RNC. I also consider the election a done deal.”

    Brilliant! Indeed! The deed is done.

  42. 42
    Not Again Says:

    Our nation is finally secure from the socialist despots!

  43. 43
    TShak Says:

    Kateb – I wonder how much the RNC actually had input into this. From what I have read there are quite a few in the RNC that may not think this is the wisest move. If this pick was all (or mostly) McCain – he may be shrewder and smarter than most people gave him credit for. Heck – if she only played a 50% part in getting rid of the “Bridge to Nowhere” – she deserves a good look from my perspective. We could save a ton in this country just getting rid of most of the pork. I wonder how much of an influence the P and VP will have in doing that!!! Depends on Congress I guess – but if they are pushing for it – maybe it will help.

  44. 44
    Not Again Says:

    I think McCain made a great decision. On his own!

  45. 45
    TShak Says:

    One Prediction – Moose Burgers at the inaugural ball!!!

  46. 46
    Not Again Says:

    Yes!!!

  47. 47
    Not Again Says:

    You have your head right now TSAK. Thank you!

  48. 48
    Not Again Says:

    Tshak, pardon.

  49. 49
    Chris Says:

    “Our nation is finally secure from the socialist despots!”

    Only if we vote out the corporate socialists.

  50. 50
    runner Says:

    Looks like Palin is a good pick for McCain. I remember when Bush 2 picked Cheney to be his VP because Cheney brought badly needed experience to the ticket. Bush was ripped for this. But isn’t that the very reason Biden was picked for the Demo ticket? And it’s somewhat incorrect to say McCain is a continuation of Bush. Read Dick Morris below:

    The issues on which McCain and Bush differ:

    * McCain fought for campaign finance reform — McCain-Feingold — that Bush resisted and ultimately signed because he had no choice.

    * McCain led the battle to restrict interrogation techniques of terror suspects and to ban torture.

    * McCain went with Joe Lieberman on a tough measure to curb climate change, something Bush denies is going on.

    * McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts when they passed.

    * McCain urged the Iraq surge, a posture Bush rejected for years before conceding its wisdom.

    * McCain favors FDA regulation of tobacco and sponsored legislation to that effect, a position all but a handful of Republican senators oppose.

    * McCain’s energy bill, also with Lieberman, is a virtual blueprint for energy independence and development of alternate sources.

    * After the Enron scandal, McCain introduced sweeping reforms in corporate governance and legislation to guarantee pensions and prohibit golden parachutes for executives. Bush opposed McCain’s changes and the watered-down Sarbanes-Oxley bill eventuated.

    * McCain has been harshly critical of congressional overspending, particularly of budgetary earmarks, a position Bush only lately adopted (after the Democrats took over Congress).

    Remember that McCain ran against Bush in 2000.

  51. 51
    The Wisdom of Choosing Sarah Palin Says:

    [...] Lisa Renee is fielding a variety of views on the choice while trying to remain the fount of info and debate that is Glass City Jungle. But like Eric, I would love to hear how she feels, herself – because of who she is. I hope she will share too, but if not, it’s understood that she isn’t. [...]

  52. 52
    Chris Says:

    Runner, is that McCain list pre-2008 or post-2008? Methinks you could make one list for flips, and a second for flops.

  53. 53
    Not Again Says:

    Dick Morris is a smart man.

  54. 54
    Pam Says:

    She has more experience than Obama. She has worked in the private sector. She served on city council. She served as mayor. She is now the chief executive of a state. What is Obama’s experience? It is laughable for the dems to try and say Sarah Palin doesn’t have the experience. What’s going to be next, she shouldn’t be VP because she has kids? Because she has a baby with down syndrome? Sarah Palin has courage, she is a strong woman and can speak without the use of a teleprompter, hint hint Barry. Besides, it’s McCain and Obama. The dems sound pretty desperate. Sarah Palin makes McCain look good.

  55. 55
    Brian Maxson Says:

    yeah, and I remember all you jokers believing everything Carty fed ya too.

    McCain, sorry folks, is on his way out. His days on Earth are numbered, unfortunately.

    Obama? That man is a target. Way too many racists out there, way too many CREATIVE racists out there, to realistically dismiss an opportunity.

    So in two years, who do YOU want as President? That political climate is going to change in Washington after this election in a lot of ways, and which vice-presidental candidate are you more comfortable with being in charge?

    You think because McCain is a politican that his body is going to all of a sudden heal itself to perfection just for his term? I really have no idea why John was even considered with a couple of more deserving and accomplished Republicans that not only have the “R” core conservative values, but are much more youthful and credible and old man McCain.

    And then McCain picks as a vice president a govenor of a state that has no foriegn affair experience, at all.

    To compete against a senator that not only has been on foriegn affair panels, committies, and investigations for years and has the respect of many foriegn dignataries.

    This election would be much more difficult for me had anyone other than McCain been nominated, but I am, as a registered “No Party Affiliation” member, much more comfortable with my conscience voting Obama.

  56. 56
    The A-Hole Says:

    Palin brings several things to the table Democrats fear.

    She has worked, lived, and governed (at the municiple and state level) in a state that:

    1) Has no income tax.
    2) Leads our country in energy development (safely).
    3) Has a strong military presence in a strategically key state.
    4) Has a privacy act in its Constitution making Govt. abuses such as eminent domain, smoking bans, and other intrusions harder.

    She is able to debate ANWAR with facts and personal experience in the region not just by claiming baby seals will be killed, and showing pictures of mountain ranges not found in ANWAR. She is a sucessful, independant, strong, attractive WOMAN who is not a Gloria Stienem liberal. She is not entrenched in Washington, owes no favors, and has no reason to cow-tow to special insterest groups.

    Because she is a surprise pick – to herself as well – she has not orchestrated her life for a run to the white house. Given that McCain is likey a one term President, she may likewise only wish to be a one term VP who will tell the special interests to buz off, she doesn’t need them.

    OR – and here is the real scary part for Democrats and liberals – she will be a successfull VP under McCain and will become the HISTORIC first female President. Once again Republicans will be on the right side of history (as with the voting rights act and civil rights act) and show AGAIN that despite the rhetoric of the left, conservatives believe in success on merit not gender, race, creed, color or sexual orientation.

    TAHL

  57. 57
    Brian Maxson Says:

    oooooooooooooooo #4 is going to be a tad tough for her under McCain’s tenure, seeing she won’t be the boss. Well, unless….but goodness forbid….

    but seeing that you’ve acknowledged her to be a strong woman, you’ve judged her based on gender.

    So do you think, given the position, Ms. Palin could participate in foreign affairs and be taken more seriously than Mr. Biden?

    Because right now, that’s what we should be focusing upon.

    This country has politically alienated the rest of the world, and the repairs aren’t going to happen overnight, in a week or even in a year.

    Congress does the majority of the work and right now we’re screwed because congress is heavily Democrat. And I realize how badly we’ve been screwed over because of congress’ decisions. But that too will be sorted out when the Republicans take congress back and with Biden at these world conferences.

  58. 58
    Brian Maxson Says:

    #24 Dear Ron,

    After foreign interests buy up all these American companies, and they are big time with the weak dollah, do you think these foreign interests are going to tolerate unions messing with their bottom line and deal with the ignorance and greed, or do you think they’ll just close the place and move it to another state with tax incentives and “right-to-work” philosophies?

  59. 59
    neighborhood concerns Says:

    “civil rights act”

    Both parties can lay claim a civil rights act.

    Civil Rights Act of 1875

    “The Civil Rights Act of 1875 (18 Stat. 335) was United States federal law proposed by Republican Senator Charles Sumner and Republican Congressman Benjamin F. Butler in 1870. ”

    “The Act was challenged and brought to the Supreme Court in 1883. The Act was found unconstitutional on the basis that the Act regulated actions of private companies rather than actions of the state government”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1875

    Civil Rights Act of 1957

    “The Civil Rights Act of 1957, primarily a voting rights bill, was the first civil rights legislation enacted by Congress in the United States since Reconstruction. After it was proposed to Congress by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, Southern Democratic senator James Strom Thurmond sustained the longest filibuster in history in an attempt to keep it from becoming law.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1957
    Civil Rights Act of 1964

    “he bill was introduced by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963,[1] in which he asked for legislation “giving all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments,” as well as “greater protection for the right to vote.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

    “The Voting Rights Act of 1965″

    “President Johnson issued a call for a strong voting rights law and hearings began soon thereafter on the bill that would become the Voting Rights Act.

    Congress determined that the existing federal anti-discrimination laws were not sufficient to overcome the resistance by state officials to enforcement of the 15th Amendment. The legislative hearings showed that the Department of Justice’s efforts to eliminate discriminatory election practices by litigation on a case-by-case basis had been unsuccessful in opening up the registration process; as soon as one discriminatory practice or procedure was proven to be unconstitutional and enjoined, a new one would be substituted in its place and litigation would have to commence anew.

    President Johnson signed the resulting legislation into law on August 6, 1965.”

    http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/voting/intro/intro_b.htm

  60. 60
    2 eyed gop Says:

    Brian M – You forget that longevity runs in McCain’s family, his mother is in her 90s and he is in good health.

    I was in Dayton yesterday for the VP announcement. This was a brilliant pick for McCain and the atmosphere was electric! Finally the campaign is taking off, people are excited about Palin and the dems should be very nervous.

  61. 61
    neighborhood concerns Says:

    “foreign interests are going to tolerate unions ”

    “Toyota rewards Japanese workers
    Posted by: Ian Rowley on March 15

    Much is made of how Toyota benefits from its non-union employees in the United States, but it’s a bit different back home. In Japan, Toyota Motor Workers’ Union has 58,000 members. What’s more, with the financial year ending later this month in Japan, pay negotiation is in full flow.

    Still, union membership doesn’t mean Japanese Toyota workers can expect huge rises. According to reports in the Japanese media, Toyota rebuffed union demands for a rise of $12.77 in the monthly base wage. Instead, a wage rise of $8.51 was agreed earlier this week—the same rise as last year. That may seem harsh given that Toyota’s Japanese workforce still makes over half of all its cars and, last year, raised exports by over 20%.”

    http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/2007/03/toyota_pays_up.html

    “GM Daewoo, South Korea union head off strike with wage deal
    By In-Soo Nam
    EOUL (MarketWatch) — GM Daewoo Auto & Technology Co., the South Korean unit of General Motors Corp. (GM:
    General Motors Corporation
    has reached a tentative wage deal with its labor union that could bring a series of partial strikes to an end.
    The union has accepted an offer of a 6% monthly wage increase, or an average of KRW82,000 ($76) a month, the company said.
    Also, GM Daewoo will pay workers a two-month salary bonus and a lump-sum of KRW2.2 million ($2,03 designed to encourage them to boost productivity.
    The union will put the deal to vote Wednesday to ask its members if they will accept the management’s proposal, said GM Daewoo union spokesman Kim Yun-Bog.
    “I expect our union members to accept the company proposal,” he said. ”

    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/gm-daewoo-south-korea-union/story.aspx?guid={808AD333-4929-4389-9495-399E1D46EC68}

  62. 62
    ronkorsog Says:

    Brian: I fear that jobs will be moved to other countries rather than other states.

  63. 63
    truthseeker Says:

    #56 – your best post yet (imho).

    For me personally, not intending to vote for McCain anyway and knowing lots of other conservatives/libertarians of the same mind… this was just way too calculated on McCain’s part. A woman – bordering on gorgeous – who is at least as good a speaker as Obama – with impeccable pro-life credentials. I can’t be manipulated that easily. NOW – if she were on the top of the ticket, I would definitely vote for her.

    If she runs in 2012 or later, I will vote for her. It was never about Hillary being a woman – it was about character deficits & questionable behavior of long standing. It is refreshing to see that there are women in politics with unquestioned morals.

  64. 64
    runner Says:

    # 52 – Chris – I like Dick Morris. I think he can be right on with a lot of his columns. What is there not to like about a guy, who when he worked for Bill Clinton, took a phone call from Bill while he lying naked with a prostitute! I mean, c’mon! Is America great or what!

  65. 65
    runner Says:

    Obama will get a lot of votes just because he is black. People have no clue how the economy works. Just ask a few people how things work. You get the deer in the head lights look. Black is not beautiful in this case. If the democrats are so damn good we should be living on an island of prosperity here in Toledo for the past forever! What do ya think Wade K.? Oh, ok, everyone else at fault. And The Blade really sucks anymore.

  66. 66
    The A-Hole Says:

    Brian Maxson – Repairing our Global image is a non-issue. I don’t care what the French think, I don’t care what the UN thinks, I don’t care what the EU thinks. We are the world’s super-power, we are not forced to place our freedom, sucess, or future at their feet.

    I do care what Putin thinks, what Iran thinks, and what anti-western terrorists think. They only respect/respond to strength. The EU, China and the rest of the world will conduct commerce with the US, and consider our position globally because to be successful the have to, not because of military power or will, because of economics.

    Iran, N. Korea, Putin, and terrorists will only consider our position if they have to, not because of economics but because of power and political will.

    Runner – While Obama will get the majority of the black vote, I think a substantial portion of southern democrats (wrong as this may be) will get in the booth, draw the curtain, and be unable to vote for a black man. And, by November many democrats or undecided will see that the shiny new finish on Obama has worn off, and he has no depth or experience to lead.

    I hope.

    TAHL

  67. 67
    runner Says:

    I would vote for a black man anytime but it comes down to policies for me. I vote for what I believe in and would not vote for the person. No way! But so many people are thrilled with the thought of electing a black man that they are ignoring the issues.

  68. 68
    anonymous Says:

    When I heard the McCain announcement, I immediately thought the pick was similar to Pres. George H. W. Bush’s pick of Dan Quayle. McCain is pandering to the ultra conservative right and insults women voters with the political calculation that women will automatically vote for a woman, even if they disagree on the policies that candidate will pursue.

  69. 69
    Pam Says:

    The democrats should just worry about their own ticket. Their response shouldn’t matter.

  70. 70
    LisaRenee Says:

    True, but it’s almost become standard for parties and candidates to release a statement on situations like this. I’m not sure if the Ohio GOP released a statement on the Biden pick, but I know in some of the other states they did.

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