Damas signature case now being referred out of Lucas County – Updated!
Updated: Toledo Free Press on GOP signature case. They spoke with Lucas County Prosecutor Chief Investigator Frank Stiles on this ongoing story.
Jim Harpen sent me a link via e-mail where he is reporting the investigation on Lucas County Republican Party Treasurer James Damas finance form signatures is being referred to an out of county prosecutor. While the Harpen story does not reference specifics, such as it was this blogger who discovered it; the Toledo Free Press was the media outlet that arranged for the signature analysis, then asking the Lucas County BOE and the Secretary of State to investigate and Fox Toledo was the media outlet that recorded the comment from Lucas County Republican Chairman Jon Stainbrook that the allegations of signature fraud were “a bunch of baloney” — I have independently confirmed that the case has been referred out of Lucas County as reported by Harpen.
Link to the original Toledo Free Press story, link to previous blog coverage, link Jim Harpen e-mailed me.
Ah, out of Blade influence, can it be true? Can we hope for justice to be served since the case is out of Pottersville?
God is good.
Way to break a story, Lisa! Hem won’t be time stamping this one, I’m sure!!! Hah!
Yeah!
October 26th, 2009 at 4:35 pmYeah, I wonder what Bartow has to say about this one…
Matthew Bartow wrote:
Hmmm… inquiring minds want to know. He made it clear in September that he’d be available for any “ongoing or upcoming” legal issues, he just didn’t say for whom he would be available!!!
Bet he’s got TONS of dirt that a Stainstick just can’t fix for this one…
October 26th, 2009 at 4:48 pmHenri,
Bartow’s resignation might be a clue that his cooperation will be a willingness to tell the truth and IMO not available or favorable for Stainbrook.
Good stuff,huh?
October 26th, 2009 at 5:04 pmWonder how the “stain” feels now that the focus is on him. It will be hard for him to avoid it all now. What drives me crazy, is that he still thinks he is qualified to serve on the board of elections. If he can’t lead the party to follow the law and have the treasurer sign the appropriate documents, he won’t be reliable to make the right decision as a board member.
I like the fact that all the “stain” had to say to the TIN reporter was insults. How intelligent!
October 26th, 2009 at 5:13 pmThis is absolutely the right move by Weglein.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:03 pm“a bunch of baloney”-Eloquent isn’t he!
October 26th, 2009 at 6:26 pmMike, I can’t take credit for this part of the story, only passing on the link Harpen emailed me and then updating with the Toledo Free Press coverage, and I have thanked the Blade for their story that made me question what was reported on as far as party financial reports. Had they not done that? I would not have been searching through the reports and noticed the signature differences.
I’m not sure what Bartow knows, Henri, but it will hopefully all come out. That said, it should be made very clear that Jon Stainbrook has not been charged with anything in connection to this, so at this point he would be legally qualified to serve on the Board of Elections. The prosecutor’s office has not publicly identified any suspects at this point or yet confirmed that they are going to charge anyone.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:45 pm“Hem won’t be time stamping this one, I’m sure!!!”
I’m the least of Lisa’s concerns.
Seems to me that Lisa has an attribution problem with her part-time employer. Lisa mentioned that, “…story does not reference specifics, such as it was this blogger who discovered it…”
So, Mike, Lisa’s doing the time-stamping and attribution correction on this one.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:42 pmSeems to me if you read it, I added the information in relation to what Mr. Harpen sent me, since I was actually involved in discovering the signature aspect and his reporting did not reference that.
There were no attribution issues related to the Toledo Free Press, they actually have no problem giving others credit.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:45 pmSorry Lisa.
Just felt bad for you that they left you out of the story, and you felt compelled to mention it.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:47 pmDid they “update” the story to reflect your contribution?
October 26th, 2009 at 7:50 pmAnd Mr. Hem, the Toledo Free Press is not my “employer” — I’m an independent contractor who performs fact checking and an occasional free lance writing or research assignment. I prefer being my own boss instead of having one.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:50 pmI’m used to that Mr. Hem, and it was not the Toledo Free Press who didn’t provide the attribution as to the history of the signature scenario. I’ve been credited as far as my role by them.
Other media sources take stories from this blog without even mentioning it came from a blog, some just an “area blogger” though my favorite is “some blogger”. I don’t have someone like you on staff to make sure things are done properly, so sometimes I do feel it necessary to point it out on my own.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:56 pmI hope this is a good thing, under the circumstances one never knows. This sleaze ball seems to worm his way out of everything with some of his past ‘discrepancies’ being expunged from his record. That doesn’t mean they didn’t happen, just no record of them happening.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:15 pmRegardless of who signed the documents, this entire issue falls on stainbrook. He is the chairman, he was allegedly at the Board of Elections when one of the alleged forgeries took place and it is his responsibility to know what is going on with the party.
But Meghan, we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty and at this point, no charges have been filed against anyone. So we have to wait to see what happens next. As the TFP article stated from Lucas County Prosecutor Chief Investigator Frank Stiles, the Cuyahoga prosecutor will decide if more investigation is needed or if this will go to the grand jury. I know the lure of playing arm chair judge and jury, I just want to caution people to remember that all we know for certain at this point is that the concern that these signatures were not those of James Damas is being looked at.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:21 pmAnd Hem, if you read the original story on this blog and the TFP you would understand why Lisa Renee feels the way she does. Of course she should be given proper credit. I don’t know of any other blogger who does the research Lisa Renee does on her stories. She writes with more integrity than those so called political reporters at the blade. Lisa does her homework before any story gets posted. When have you seen a story on this site that is not factually accurate? You may not like the facts being presented but that would be your problem, not the messengers.
Shame on TIN and Jim Harpen for not giving Glasscityjungle.com credit, but I guess thats why i never heard of them before. Many bloggers don’t get respect and many don’t deserve it, this blog is not to be compared.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:24 pmWhatever Lisa
October 26th, 2009 at 8:25 pmI cannot find anything about this of the Blade website. I must have missed it.
BTW-can anyone explain to me this bizarre relationship between Stainbrook and the Blade? I am not from Toledo and I have never seen anything like this in the other cities where I lived.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:56 pmThe Blade has not reported on this latest news yet. I can’t explain the relationship, but since Mr. Hem is an employee of the Blade, perhaps he’d be the best one to answer that question for us.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:02 pmWow- Seems like Mr. Hem has got his panties in a wad over something…. who knows.
Either way, keep up the good work Lisa!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:14 pmAm I wrong to assume it’s not the biggest deal in the world that Lisa didn’t get credit from Harpen’s site? It would be completely different if TIN did a story like the TFP and covered the topic in some detail. They merely did an update in the linked story.
Is it wrong to assume those who are reading TIN are also capable of finding other sources on the internet.
Perhaps I am biased
, but don’t we all have biases and prejudices?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:23 pmIt’s not the biggest deal in the world, but it is considered proper net etiquette to link sources or at least cite them. As you can see by the initial post here, I linked TIN and I credited Jim Harpen for the material, even the Blade referenced the Toledo Free Press when they have covered this story. Link to recent Blade article and Link to first Blade article on this topic.
It comes down to how factual you want to be.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:34 pmAnd…since my relationship with the Toledo Free Press has been clearly disclosed…people at least can determine if they think I’m being biased or not.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:35 pmhahaha
in the interest of full disclosure, i don’t even know what the future holds. I sure wish i did though.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:41 pmOkay, when I find just the right crystal ball, I’ll make sure I share.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:56 pmJenny – stainbrook and jr block have an alleged longtime friendship. Allegedly back in the 90’s stainbrook was the guy who worked the door at a bar called Frankies, he allegedly would help block score chicks (lets face it, block is not much in the looks dept., think of Mr. Burns from the Simpsons). I would even venture a guess that given stainbrooks alleged penchant for photography and tape recording there may be some alleged evidence in stainbrook’s possession which would possibly embarrass mr. block.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:57 pmstainbrook was also allegedly in a punk rock band that mr. block was allegedly a fan of. Kind of hard to picture jr block all dressed in black leather rocking out at Frankies with stainbrook and his band of merry tattoo / piercing artists (not the most elegant local establishment, i think they were busted for serving underage) but allegedly thats the way it used to be. Ah, the alleged good old days
Now it appears that mr. block allegedly has a soft spot for the stain, maybe it hearkens him back to alleged better days? He decides stainbrook (allegedly) would make a fine chairman for the R party, with a resume like stainbrooks why not? His pool boy experience should serve him well, (after all he probably made some great connections pool side and its only been a few years). Who better to wreak complete havoc over the LCRP? Why not try to help this goof ball stainbrook make something of himself, after all block is allegedly a liberal, why should he care what happens to the R party? So he tears down a bunch of Republicans in his paper, after all, you need bad guys in order to make someone a good guy and now you see what we have today!
Hope this helps! In short, maybe stainbrook is blackmailing block? Or maybe its something way more bizarre.
Tom Mo-
While you may not know what the future holds, IMHO, I am guessing that the Stainbrook crew is royally screwed. At least ONE of them is going to go up on charges, I would bet…
October 26th, 2009 at 10:00 pmmeghan-
Please don’t malign Mr. Burns. Only JRB could be creepier, IMHO!!!
As for all your other hypothesis, I’d have to agree that there are many items bantied about the alleged goings-on between the Stain and so many, IMHO…
The parking lots, the girls, the money, the ????? Fill in the blank, if you will…
October 26th, 2009 at 10:07 pmYou have got to be kidding Meghan! Stainbrook got girls for the publisher of the Blade!!! We have to suffer through this nonsense because some guy had trouble getting dates? Men!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:39 pmAmazing Hem didn’t get the joke…the blade is so used to being the jokster, they don’t get it when the jokes on them. Too funny. Better get used to it “Paul”, your days are numbered.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:41 pmJenny please note that is all ALLEGED! We must protect ourselves and others from the frivolous lawsuits thrown about by stainbrook and his alleged street urchins.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:47 pmPlease add allegedly to anything i may have missed
October 26th, 2009 at 10:51 pm“‘Paul’, your days are numbered.”
A death threat. How nice of you!
I hope your days are without number and prosperous.
See you on the other side.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:38 pmI’ve gotten death threats, I did not take that as one, I took it as a reference to your employment/employer’s operational days being numbered. If I believed it was a death threat, I would a) remove it – b) report it.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:45 pmAh, the things money can’t buy. Ladies, you are full of entertainment tonight!
From my days knowing Jim Harpen i don’t recall him being very big on etiquette. Sloppy eater. (should I say allegedly, is he a lawsuit fanatic as well?)
And did I read that Mr. Stainbrook had a few choice words for the reporter? I was not aware that Mr. Stainbrook had ever met a reporter he didn’t like. i suppose all good things must come to an end.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:46 pmIt appears Mr. Stainbrooks paranoia is spreading to the rest of the staff at the blade!
October 26th, 2009 at 11:47 pmI do think that Lisa’s initiation of this story should be fairly attributed. But that’s just me – always making trouble by holding people accountable to do the right thing.
Paul Hem’s activity is held in context with his historical activity and that’s not a positive thing as the response here shows. His comment was very simple and not inflammatory in my opinion. But the general response to his having posted was so negative. People read into the post and that’s a very telling thing. You are known by the company you keep and the conduct you’ve been known to display.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:59 pmAnd I should add, in my own case, the lawyer letters you’ve been known to generate.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:02 amLOL I never thought of the Stain and dipsh*t from Pittsburgh who can’t get laid as Smithers and Mr. Burns until today. BUT NOW I CAN’T GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD!
October 27th, 2009 at 12:53 amI don’t know who Mr. Hem is, although I assume he is an employee of the Blade. However, he does seem to be on edge.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:30 amEnough time wasted on the “players”, what is the rep of this prosecutor? Is this a good move, or a neutral move? Does this indicate maybe more was discovered, and people involved are in some serious ####. It should be interesting to see.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:32 amFunny, I didn’t see this in the blade today. Bet if it was one of the “Noe Republicans” (you know, the ones who actually vote for Republican candidates) it would have made the front page. Just another example of the shoddy reporting and biases by our local piece o’ crap. You can’t say they are unaware of the story since we have one of their very own monitoring the posts.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:38 amJust in case there is anyone reading this who was not aware of who Paul Hem is (like me until last night), he is an employee of the blade, ‘news system coordinator’ to be specific.
Oh this is fun!
Let’s predict what will happen!
My guess: Tempest in a teacup, much ado about nothing.
mj
October 27th, 2009 at 10:19 ammindy wrote:
Really? A potential Felony 5 is nothing, eh?
Hope the whole Stainbrook crew feels that way… what is their position today on this matter, since you and your ‘peeps’ talk so often?
October 27th, 2009 at 10:25 ammeghan, Thank you for reading The Blade.
Admin edit: the remainder of the comment was removed since it was a direct advertorial that had no content related to the post topic.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:01 amAhhh, anything to be able to up the advertising revenue, eh, Paul?
Can’t give the subscriptions away, or they wouldn’t count towards total circulation/subscriptions… BUT, sell it for a buck and the advertisers are none the wiser as to total regular price subscriptions versus the dollar menu item…
However, back to the point of this thread, which you seemed to ignore… (Though Meghan didn’t say if she read it online for free!)
Why is it that the Blade blatantly ignored such a big deal to the residents of Lucas County? Answer that one for us, Paul, since you are so interested in the blog so suddenly.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:24 amI hope Meghan doesn’t purchase that rag.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:30 amThe typical industry charge for a blog of this size for a key word text link is $25.00 for a month, I’ll look forward to receiving your payment Paul. I do take paypal – psyche777@gmail.com.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:05 pmWay to go, Lisa!!! I was wondering if he was going to get away with his free advertising for that rag he works for…
Let us know if he actually comes through with his payment.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pmIf he pays, I might even click on the link.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:32 pm8Paul Hem Says:
“Hem won’t be time stamping this one, I’m sure!!!”
I’m the least of Lisa’s concerns.
Seems to me that Lisa has an attribution problem with her part-time employer. Lisa mentioned that, “…story does not reference specifics, such as it was this blogger who discovered it…”
So, Mike, Lisa’s doing the time-stamping and attribution correction on this one.
What I meant Paul, by your lack of interest in time stamping this particular story was your employer will not wish to report on his little buddy Stainbrook. Rather he will attempt to keep any negative reporting about him out of his rag. Get the joke now? Nothing to do about Lisa, nothing to do about her receiving atribution–it was about the sneaky, underhanded relationship between stainbrook and your boss. Period. Another typical blade like response. You need to stop drinking the water over there…
Mike Says:
Amazing Hem didn’t get the joke…the blade is so used to being the jokster, they don’t get it when the jokes on them. Too funny. Better get used to it “Paul”, your days are numbered.
33Paul Hem Says:
“‘Paul’, your days are numbered.”
A death threat. How nice of you!
I hope your days are without number and prosperous.
See you on the other side.
Really Mr. Hem, step away from the blade’s water cooler!
Thank you Lisa for your rational response to Mr. Hem’s death threat accusation.
Paul, you really need to stop drinking the water over there…in true typical fashion you have turned an innocuous statement into a death threat. You have proven everyone’s point about your organization. Let me be clear: “your days are numbered WORKING FOR THE BLADE”. This is why your subscriptions have dropped, making heroes out of scum bags and driving the good people out of the area with your targeted twisting of the facts to maliciously damage those who your boss doesn’t like at a particular moment. The lack of journalistic integrity of your employer is widely known and will be “your”(and let me be perfectly clear when I say “your”. “Your” is used collectively and to reference specifically the business that employs you)demise. So, I guess, I’ll see you on the other side of… the TFP front desk when the Blade closes.
Really, Paul, don’t drink the water over there…makes you look silly.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:59 pmThank you for clarifying your comments. I didn’t think I knew you, but apparently you are:
“…on the other side of… the TFP front desk…”
Explains a lot Mike.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:58 pmSo, Mr. Hem… did ya pay up yet? At this point, I just might set up a PayPal account for you to pay into just for my having to skim past your annoying little whiny posts…
Oh, wait! NOW I see the connection… Paul Hem works for The Blade/JRB/Mr. Burns… JRB/Mr. Burns is a special friend of Stainbrook, another whiny little lost soul…IMHO
Could it be such personal traits are required for employment at the local rag?
October 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pmhenri,
The only whining I read here are those who continually whine about the newspaper.
Are both you and Mike “on the other side of the TFP front desk?”
October 27th, 2009 at 4:21 pmOh for pity sake Paul.You’re drinking that water again, aren’t you?
October 27th, 2009 at 5:06 pmWe whine about your newspaper because it is destroying our community. Some of us want our community to thrive, your boss wants to bury it. Forgive us and our whinning. And for the record
I am not on the otherside of any news desk and if I was, it wouldn’t be the TFP. I only used that as another news source because you work for a news organization. I tried to to make a point which again seems lost on you. I guess I could have said ABC13, WNWO24 or WTOL11 so you would be less hypersenstive. However, if I could be so bold to make a suggestion, if you have a code of ethics at all why don’t you see if any of the aforementioned are hiring. You have got to get out of there…I’m worried about you!
code of ethics?
at the Blade?
Even their alleged omnibudsman can’t see past the water cooler because of the employees feasting from it to be allegedly “unbiased”.
Kinda reminds me of the two pilots that slept their way past Minneapolis. You know they suck at their jobs, but will throw anything against the wall in the hopes of something credible sticking.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:29 pmThanks Mike. I appreciate your concern.
In this economy, we ALL should be concerned.
However, I don’t have any concern regarding my decision to work at The Blade.
Frankly, with the job situation the way it is, I’m surprised you would think it would be just a matter of choosing another firm, and merrily change jobs like it was 2006.
AND in the NEWS business – C’MON! What water are you drinking?
October 27th, 2009 at 5:43 pmThat’s too bad Paul, the blade is a terrible place. You may be right, it’s hard to find good people to work for during this economic downturn. Yep, you are so right, not many news organizations are on the up and up…that’s why I get my news here. At least however, the other news organizations do not go after innocent people in the same fashion as your boy in Pittsberg. He makes it personal and that my friend is irresponsible. I think I’ve had a bit too much water myself, forgive me. Time for a marini! Take care over there Paul, he turns on most everybody, don’t be a target for him, watch yourself.
And Brian Maxson–right on bro! Ombudsman my fat touche! I’d get into more about him, but I’m late for that drink…tomorrow’s another day Scarlet!
And Paul, that’s a line from a very famous movie, not calling either of you Scarlet…I don’t want you getting your shorts in a wad over the remark
October 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pmMr. Hem,
I don’t know what position you hold at the Blade, so you may not be able to respond to my question. I am a Blade subscriber as well as a customer of the cable company(cable, internet and phone). Frankly, I don’t really have a big problem with your paper, but I don’t expect a newspaper to be fair or unbiased. Indeed, the history of American journalism is quite the opposite.
Except for a few areas, board o elections, YMCA and dog warden, your coverage is just like every other paper. I’ve lived in two other cities(not in Ohio) and don’t find the Blade any better or worse than the papers in those cities. But again, I don’t expect a newspaper to be fair.
However, every time the board of elections makes bad coffee, the Blade prints a story. Yet not a word about the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate possible felonies by official of the county Republican party. That’s not an every event.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:13 pmI will copy your comment and send it around to our editors and others.
Thank you very much for your subscription to both products.
Social media should make it easier for you to connect with your news service. I really want to make that happen.
I honestly don’t know the answer to your question but I will do my best to get an answer for you.
Thanks again for subscribing!
Best regards,
Paul
October 27th, 2009 at 6:59 pmDear Mr. Hem,
Don’t feel bad, they go off the deep end and get all frothy every time there is a post even remotely related to Jon Stainbrook…it’s the weirdest thing.
Welcome to the Jungle!
mj
October 27th, 2009 at 7:21 pmMr Helm,
Why has the Blade not reported on this?
October 27th, 2009 at 8:30 pmMindy-
So, what has the Stain offered you lately for your allegiance????? I mean, really, you are not necessarily the best source of information, considering your own background, IMHO….
don’t forget to hug the kiddoes, no matter how revolting it may be, candidate, Mindy…..that includes your own son….
October 27th, 2009 at 8:43 pmI think a good one to ask would be the so called omnibudsman. This guy can dance with the best of them and in my opinion, he should be on dancing with stars. ;-( He doesn’t respond to questions on this subject though, at least, not yet.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:44 pmombudsman, I meant.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:45 pmnow, now mindy, don’t act to naive, some of us know what you do when you’re off the clock…
Schoold board? Come on now, do you really think you should be governing over our children?
tsk,tsk.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:47 pmnow, now mindy, don’t act to naive, some of us know what you do when you’re off the clock…
Schoold board? Come on now, do you really think you should be governing our children?
tsk,tsk, candidate mindy, you should not be running for school board…
your allegiance to that wacko is telling.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:52 pmJenny,
Get the blade on line if you want to see what they are reporting, check out this blog if you want the truth about what’s being reported and check out AT&T for your cable, web and phone, it’s better and cheaper by about 15%. Record up to 4 shows at a time and watch on any TV in your house and still pay less.
Lisa, tell me how much I owe you for the advertisement…I’m not AT&T but I’d pay out of my own pocket to do in the theives and the liars…
October 27th, 2009 at 9:02 pmMike, since you are not an employee of AT&T and you didn’t reference a link with a keyword, you are okay.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:04 pmAnd from a fact point of reference, none of those who commented on this post are employees or even independent contractors for the Toledo Free Press, with the exception of me, the blog owner, who puts in many more hours here as her primary “work” – I typically invest 60 to 80 hours a week here…
October 27th, 2009 at 9:06 pmThanks Lisa!
But if I owe ya, I will pay up and enjoy every penny!!
October 27th, 2009 at 9:07 pmYou don’t Mike and I have removed the unauthorized ad since it does not appear there is any interest in a paid keyword text link ad on behalf of the Blade.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:09 pmI haven’t heard back yet, and probably won’t for awhile.
However, I am in the newsroom and we were spending most of out time with our normal cops and courts reporting. The editors wre busy with theayoral debate,
If one actually reads the TFP story, then one will find that TFP reported that it sent a letter in early September to both the BOE and Ohio Secretary of State complaining about local political ‘maneuvers.’ Specifically: ‘That letter expressed concerns that some of those maneuvers could impact the local investigation.’
It seems that they precipitated the move. Therefore, since the TFP became directly involved in the story, they would know or be appraised of that development, where The Blade would not.
Journalistic integrity? Let them explain that.
I believe that The Blade will report what we learn independently.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:12 pmHave you been drinking Paul. Respectfully, did your editors approve of that post? Does it represent the blade? Just asking.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:18 pmPoor Paul.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:24 pmApologies for the typos, but switching to the iPhone challenges the digits.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:25 pmPaul said:
Frankly, with the job situation the way it is, I’m surprised you would think it would be just a matter of choosing another firm, and merrily change jobs like it was 2006.
Hey Paul, what would you be doing if it was 2006…??
Still in the newsroom? Too bad they’ve let all those reporters go and they’re having trouble keeping the lights on…wonder how many of the Alexander family members and Y employees cancelled their subscriptions after they were targeted. or the Skeldon’s and their vast relatives. When will Alan get that his brother is destroying the paper and their reputation and pay his brother to leave the country and hybernate in some animal cave with the other like vermon and bottom feeders??
October 27th, 2009 at 9:47 pmNot again,
I prefaced my remarks with ”I haven’t heard back yet, and probably won’t for awhile.”
Therefore, the remarks are mine, not The Blade’s.
This exemplifies what the weekly tabloid is all about:
Tell the Toledo Free Press to keep their promises
October 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pmThat’s old stuff Paul. The Blade must be very concerned about the weekly paper. And if you want to refer to tabloid journalism, come on now, your paper has scraped the bottom of the barrel in their editorializing and calling it news. When I think about the disgusting reporting of your paper it makes my stomach turn. What the people at your paper don’t seem to realize is that the community is getting fed up with your paper and, it’s making everyone’s stomach turn and one by one we are canceling subscriptions. As the advertisers realize the decrease, they too will cancel. Your reign of tirany is coming to an end Paul. And the sooner the better.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:44 pmSoooo ready to spill everything I know about the whole LCRP…
October 28th, 2009 at 7:54 amThose political ‘maneuvers’ were most likely referring to the non stop attacks in the blade on the BoE and some at the prosecutors office. That would be the most likely reason a prosecutor had to be borrowed from another county even though our prosecutor was able to convict Tom Noe, someone who was very active in politics and probably knew many at the local office, without anyone screaming it was personal.
Speaking of Noe, lets not allow this parallel to slip past us – part of Noe’s conviction was forgery. Ah, the irony! Looks like stainbrook is getting to be more like a Noe Republican every day!
Many good people have had their reputations impugned just so this hitler-esque character could be one step closer to his dream job of making 18K at the Board of Elections. Dare to dream jon, dare to dream.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:12 amI think the blade editors were reading this thread last night. They mentioned the Damas case http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091028/NEWS09/910280319/-1/NEWS
October 28th, 2009 at 8:13 amDon’t be a tease henri!
October 28th, 2009 at 8:14 amNot again,
The editors don’t read this stuff.
Frankly, I watch blogs and Twitter for mentions of our brand. Of course, I use automated means so I don’t spend an inordinate amount of time.
Have a great day Mike, not again, et al.
Jenny, please send me an e-mail at paulhem[at]toledoblade.com. I can then correspond with you regarding a more complete reply to your question posted earlier.
If I answered here, then my response might be considered sales oriented.
Let’s face it, when you work for the premier news outlet in NW Ohio and SE Michigan, it’s difficult not to be positive about the organization.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:48 amI think Paul is pushing to be head IT tech for the entire block empire.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:59 amThe hit job the Blade did on the TFP was pathetic as linked to by Paul Hem.
To quote their reliable source, “George Washington cut off the feet of runaway slaves” LIE
On teaching a course about the 43 (at the time) Presidents she complained about having to talk about dead white men and didn’t see their importance.
Journalistic integrity?
October 28th, 2009 at 9:22 amTom Mo,
Professor Linehan speaks for herself. In the blog link that I posted, above.
The only hit job is the one perpetuated by you against Professor Linehan.
October 28th, 2009 at 11:27 amA real journalist signs their work.
October 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pmPaul Hem said:
Let’s face it, when you work for the premier news outlet in NW Ohio and SE Michigan, it’s difficult not to be positive about the organization.
Sadly, I think you believe it. Drink the water, Paul, keep drinking.
October 28th, 2009 at 12:46 pmMeghan,
October 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pmYour last (#81) post–so right on!
Mike
jenny,
I haven’t heard back from you, and our top editors have prepared an answer to your question. Here it is.
Jenny,
Thanks for reading The Blade and toledoblade.com. You’re right when you point out that newspapers can have different positions in their editorials — some are liberal, some are conservative, some are pretty independent.
But when it comes to actual news coverage, you should expect balance. Giving only one side of a story isn’t good reporting. I have found that people’s own biases and points of view can impact whether they perceive of news stories or a newspaper as being “fair.” It can also impact what they consider “newsworthy.” But good reporters try hard to give as complete of a picture of the facts as possible; holding up a mirror to the community.
You specifically mentioned what you felt was our failure to report possible felonies by officials with the Lucas County Republican Party. Though I’m not sure what issue you might be referring to, I wanted you to know that we have reported on allegations made against the party on various occasions. For example, in May 2008 we had articles about the former executive director of the county Republican Party being accused of failing to disclose she had a felony on her record dating back to 1989 in New York. She resigned shortly after the first story came out. We’ve had reports about questionable book-keeping and the results of a state audit of those books that pointed to the possibility that the party may have used funds illegally. In August of this year, we had a story that explained that the Lucas County Board of Elections had received an official request for an investigation into whether the signature of the Republican Party Treasurer was forged on numerous financial documents the party had filed in 2008 and 2009. We had another story regarding the signatures on several documents, and pointed out that the Lucas County Board of Elections voted to refer the issue to the Lucas County prosecutor’s office for further investigation.
And in today’s edition we have a story that says John Weglian, chief of the special units division for the Lucas County prosecutor’s office, confirmed to us yesterday that the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor’s office was asked to look into the forgery allegations. The board of elections is a client of the Lucas County Prosecutor’s office, and the County Prosecutor is a Democrat, so Weglian says they wanted to avoid an appearance of a conflict of interest so they sought a special prosecutor. When the Cuyahoga Prosecutor’s office completes its investigation, we’ll report that, too.
And some of our best stories start as tips from readers, so if you know of something else that we should look into, let us know and we’ll see what we can find.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:01 pmPaul,
This has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous, you still believe folks buy this stuff…
In the words of your pal Jon Stainbrook, “what a bunch of baloney” LOL!
October 28th, 2009 at 4:29 pmMr. Hem, I’d ask in the future, that if you are going to use the site for either advertising or to share material that is a written response in a media release format that you submit it through the proper process as any other media source or organization would.
This is a website that I own, pay for and operate independently of any local media outlet, and there are basic rules as well as procedures in place that everyone is expected to follow. Those who are unable to follow the rules are placed in moderation until their material can be approved for publication.
Jenny’s question to you was asked before the Blade reported on the lastest update on this particular case, which at that time, there was no Blade coverage. If in the future you’d like to relay a personal message to someone who comments here, the proper etiquette procedure would be to email me and ask me to forward your personal response to that individual. It’s considered bad form to use someone’s website, and since you are new to this whole realm of blogging, this will not only help you here, but in other places should those blogs become worthy of your time and attention.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:37 pmLisa,
One of your commentators specifically asked me to obtain an official response to her question. She hasn’t been able to e-mail me so that I could respond. Therefore, it is posted here where the question originated.
Frankly, I wouldn’t be visiting except Chris, oops, I mean Mike made a comment about me.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:45 pmWell said Lisa,
Those at that organization believe they own and operate this entire community and all it’s inhabitants. And that includes all the elected officials, community leaders and even your blog.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:46 pmWho’s Chris?
October 28th, 2009 at 4:52 pmHem – I believe there are many in the community who would beg to differ on the “balanced” point of view you claim the blade gives.
And the following statements made by the “top editors” at the blade will be taken as their admission of shoddy reporters.
“But good reporters try hard to give as complete of a picture of the facts as possible”
“Giving only one side of a story isn’t good reporting.”
I believe some time back on this very website Lisa Renee pointed out many discrepancies in blade reporting on this subject.
If you are interested in the FACTS and both sides of the story you come to glasscityjungle.com
October 28th, 2009 at 5:08 pmPaul, I take my blogging very seriously, I do not allow people to post under more than one name, so I can assure you that if Chris posted here, since he has posted under his real name, he would have to post as Chris. I can also assure you as I already have, that no one connected to the Toledo Free Press would post here under a fake name. You may not agree with some who comment here, but to try to imply that I would allow such behavior, which I strongly feel damages the credibility of a blogsite when you have one person pretending to be more than one, is very inaccurate. While I do allow people to post under webnames, I monitor my website to the best of my ability.
I allowed your comment to Jenny to stand, since I had not made it known what the typical procedure for such a situation is. You are welcome to comment, just as anyone is as long as the rules and basic etiquette standards are followed.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:38 pmI’m still curious as to who Chris is, if it’s public knowledge…
October 28th, 2009 at 5:57 pmI don’t want to assume, but the only Chris that has posted here in the past is the one who runs Swampbubbles. Others have tried to accuse him of being a few of you, which I have repeatedly stated is not the case.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:07 pmyes, it’s Chris Myers.
I’d link his site to the story, but I can’t afford the $25
He offers to accept the role as temporary leader of the LCRP until a vote can be taken next year.
~snort~
October 28th, 2009 at 6:33 pmWell, let me apologize in advance Swampbubbles Chris,
God only knows what they’re scheming to do to you and your family because I dared to give an opinion on their tyrannical ways. If you become the target de jour, I am terribly sorry.
Mike
October 28th, 2009 at 6:37 pmBrian – you can link to other blogs and to other media stories, that’s still free and always will be when they are on topic.
Now if you want to promote a product or a media source that’s not related to the topic? Then….think dollar signs.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:39 pmOh and Chris,
If you decide to file suit, I will “come out” to come to your defense.
Best,
Mike
October 28th, 2009 at 6:51 pmHey Paul,
I have to ask you, this approach–these gutter tactics are a bit over the top even for your organization. What’s the beef with you and the weekly? The attacks on the TFP and your consistant blogging on this site are pretty telling. Is there something going on around the drinking fountain at your place??
Mike (and honest to God, I am not Chris)
October 28th, 2009 at 7:00 pmPaul,
You’re extremely quiet this evening.
I had a lovely dinner with a friend and returned to find no response from you. Subsequent to checking this site, as is my usual routine upon arriving home, I checked the news sites and I think I found what I believe might answer my question posed to you earlier. The TFP site has reported your most recent drop in circulation. Is that what is upsetting all ya’ll over there? I know you all believe that your falling subscription numbers are due to Gen-X’s on line purusal of the news but your paper is way ahead of those declines. As I said, the community is on to your bosses’ deliberate attack on those community members he attempts to destroy for the pleasure. And since he buys the ink by the barrel and has no moral or ethical code and is totally irresponsible, his actions are back firing. It will hit his and Alan’s wallet. I ask myself the question, how long will they use their inheritance to subsidize their investment before they sell or let the paper close? I’ll bet that question keeps you up at night, huh? And I understand Buckeye is losing customers by the droves as well. Paul Block would be so dissappointed in his sons as are those in our community. I tried to tell you earlier, the community is very unhappy with your practices. God doesn’t like ugly, Paul.
It’s hard to believe with a city of 300,000 and a county of 450,000 and the outlining area (you probably have all those figures but I can only imagine) you are only selling 133 thousand plus Sunday papers and no doubt merely for the ads and coupons. And weekly you’re down to 104,000! Whew! No wonder you’re so worried you’re blogging and bashing. I’d be worried too!!
I understand why you might have been redicent to respond to my question. As I said, I’m worried about you Paul. Try the other news outlets, I think your days are numbered over there at the daily rag. (As an employee, not a living breathing fellow…no death threat here), just a common sense suggestion.
Best regards,
Mike
October 28th, 2009 at 11:49 pm“Mike,”
I am one of the people who thrives on change and creative chaos.
The challenges and opportunities in the news business are exciting.
What business model will emerge as the most efficient? Can we learn from case studies during TV’s emergence in 1949?
Of course technology will provide even more unfathonable changes in the future. And if human ingenuity continues or increases the rate of change, then I’ll be even happier.
While I usually don’t think about my work during the night, as you indicate in your comments, when I do it is with happy anticipation of a new day at the most innovative, fun, and satisfying work places anywhere.
Are we concerned about out circulation numbers, you bet!
You mentioned one reason – demographics coupled with technology.
The other is obvious: Our neighbors in the newspaper circulation area are tightening their belts and cutting expenses. That’s why The Blade is offering $1 home delivery for the unemployed.
I’m excited about The Blade’s future because the owners and the employees are dedicated to the provision of the best product in the area. Our advertising customers know that The Blade has one of the highest market penetration percent – not just in the area, but in the nation.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:05 amLisa,
The above is balance vs. “Mike’s” attacks upon my employer. Hopefully, you will see that each posting made by me has been a RESPONSE to comments. And not an unsolicited ad.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:10 amPaul, I think we both know the difference between a response and an advertisement and the difference between a response and a cut and paste document from someone else. When there are gray areas I try to err on the side of sharing information.
You’ve almost become the Jungle’s own version of a Blade ombudsman.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:18 amWell, at least I wrote my own opinion and thoughts, Paul. How many did you pull from the water cooler to help you with your response?
Searching for news, might be work to you but it’s fun for me–day or night. I’m a news junkie, what can I say.
You are putting way to much emphasis on one person here, Paul. I am only one of the previous subcribers that understands the negative impact your employer has had on this community. I am only one of the many that has talked to reporters that left your employer to save their own moral compass. I am only one of the people that will not pay for anything the Block family is selling. I am only one who’s stomach has turned when reading a tabloid article written purposely to destroy another respected member of my community.
And I am only one “Mike” out here that is outraged by the threats and actions of your employer.
I wouldn’t take that newspaper if you gave it to me for free–but all of us know why your selling it for a dollar, Paul.
This “Mike” wishes you good conscience and a wonderful day, “Paul”.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:29 pmPaul Hem wrote:
Sure, Paul,… and has abso-frickin-lutely NOTHING to do with this thread, which is typically what we on the blog actually come here for.
As for the rest, here’s a thought Mike, et al, maybe this ‘Paul’ isn’t really Paul Hem… maybe it’s JRB, writing under a (poorly) assumed name!!!
October 29th, 2009 at 1:55 pmHow true henri, point taken, it’s gone way off the purpose of it’s original intent. I apologize. When I consider the damage these folks have done with their paper and now they are sticking their noses in this outlet, it gets my dander up!
Wow, never thought of that…Paul/Block, using dad’s name…possible. Nah, Hem seems a bit too balanced, Block would be ranting…he loses complete control!
October 29th, 2009 at 2:34 pmBut I guarantee johnny boy is reviewing these comments, poor Paul probably has to print them off or email all these to Pittburgh–I’ll bet he’s pacing in that house in Pittburgh, I understand he’s rarely allowed in the Gazette–Hah!
Lisa,
Why is Paul blaming me for his employer? It wasn’t my decision he work for them?
October 29th, 2009 at 5:43 pmLisa-
Sorry it’s off-topic, but ya know, the next thing we’ll hear about is how some ‘area blogger’ is responsible for the loss in circulation and and revenue for the blah… and the next round of lay-offs…
How close am I, Pauly-boy?
October 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pmLOL–how true henri!
and calling me an area blogger is even funnier!
“Pauly-boy”…reminds of the Godfather:
“Hey Pauly, leave the gun, take the Cannolis”.
October 29th, 2009 at 6:38 pmWhoa, I guess I should pay closer attention to the threads. If Paul meant me, I don’t know why-all of my conversations with him have been friendly.
If Jon does care about the Republican party he would resign, because he has been nothing but a disaster and he has brought the party to new lows. It does not take a Master’s degree to know this was going to happen from day one. And shame on those who now want to disown him when it is politically convenient to do so, especially the most vocal sock puppets who were happy to jump in and do the same despicable things as him, now act like he is the worst thing since the Chevy Corviar or lint. Shame on you.
Lucas County Republicans should know that if Jon were to leave, that there is at least one person who is willing to help until reorganization next year. There may be more, but who knows but I am not hesitant to say so. If this means that others will start to pressure Jon by calling and writing him to step aside and ask Chairman Dewine to also ask Jon to step aside, no one will have to worry that there will be a gap.
BTW I am not afraid of the Blade or anyone else. If there was something for someone to highlight, it would already be out there.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:13 pmchrismyers Says:
“…it is politically convenient to do so, especially the most vocal sock puppets who were happy to jump in and do the same despicable things as him…”
Henri, I think this deserves a response.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pmMike-
Don’t EVEN put that little Blade-boy in the same category as The Godfather.
He ain’t no Pauly…
Now, Mike, pass the cannolis…..
October 29th, 2009 at 9:34 pmSorry about going off-topic Lisa…
I’ll make it up to you in February with a paczki…
October 29th, 2009 at 9:35 pmMy bad! Looks like we’ll have to “go the mattresses”!
You get a connolis when you’ve eaten your spagetti and not before!
October 29th, 2009 at 9:39 pmMama! Mama Mia!!!
October 29th, 2009 at 9:40 pmCareful now, Mike…
You wouldn’t want a horse’s head to end up in bed with you, now, would ya?
“Don’t ask me about my business…”
LMFAO!!!
October 29th, 2009 at 9:44 pmBy the by, speaking of endorsed Republican candidates, I’ve recently discovered that former real estate magnate, and City Council candidate, Constantine Stamos…
Constantine Stamos wrote:
…had his Real Estate License REVOKED according to the Ohio Division of Real Estate website!
And according to the Toledo City Paper, Stamos is a “Glenn Beck knee-jerk conservative who is clueless about public budgets…”
Way to go Jon!
October 29th, 2009 at 11:32 pmWhy is this not surprising henri? He probably forgot to renew it and it must be the fault of someone else who forgot to remind him ala Jan Scotland! I wonder if Kriner and Olman had something to do with this?
October 30th, 2009 at 12:01 amLOL!
October 30th, 2009 at 12:04 amMaybe they revoked his license because of the following case in Toledo Municipal Court. It seems our real estate magnate doesn’t understand building codes or something like that.
Case Information – Criminal/Traffic
Case Details
Defendant Case Number Date of Birth Charge
October 30th, 2009 at 12:17 amSTAMOS, CONSTANTINE P CRB-07-14388-0101 12/31/1973 COMPLIANCE WITH MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR BASIC STRUCTURE & FACILITIES;VIOLATE CHAPTER PROVISIONS
122henri Says:
Careful now, Mike…
You wouldn’t want a horse’s head to end up in bed with you, now, would ya?
“Don’t ask me about my business…”
LMFAO!!!
Depends on the horse henri…
“And never let anybody outside ada family know what you’re thinkin’ again, Ca’ Pish? What the hell’s the matter with ya?
I’m LMAO all the way to bed.
October 30th, 2009 at 12:39 amMeghan,
Thanks for the case number. I hadn’t even done a cross-search, only got the info from the state…
The fun part is, the devil in the details…….
Here goes.
STAMOS, CONSTANTINE P CRB-07-14388-0101
Journal Details
Date
ActivityRecord
06/15/2007
Affidavit Filed 06/15/2007 14:59. Defendant issued a summons and ordered to appear for arraignment on 08/01/2007 09:00 in court room 2.
07/02/2007
Certified Mail sent , certified mail number .
07/06/2007
Certified mail service made 07/06/07.
08/01/2007
FAILED TO APPEAR.. Clerk to issue notice for DEFENDANT to appear on 08/29/2007 09:00 in courtroom 2.
08/29/2007
Defendant enters plea of not guilty. To Assignment commissioner for date.
08/29/2007
I hereby voluntarily and expressly waive my constitutional right to a speedy trial and to have this case tried within the time prescribed in ORC 2945.71. On 08/29/2007 Signature of Defendant’s Attorney on case.
08/29/2007
Case assigned to JUDGE MCCONNELL.
08/29/2007
Not a Draw.
08/29/2007
Attorney WESTMEYER, JOSEPH W enters notice of appearance.
08/29/2007
Case set for PROSECUTOR PRETRIAL on 11/21/2007 13:55 in courtroom 2.
11/21/2007
Defendant present with attorney JOSEPH WESTMEYER, #0071262.
11/21/2007
To Assignment Office to schedule trial date.
11/21/2007
Not a Draw.
11/21/2007
Case set for TRIAL on 01/25/2008 08:30 in courtroom 2.
11/21/2007
Complainant officer notice sent to desk sergeant on 11/21/2007.
01/24/2008
Defendant’s attorney unable to make 1/25/08 date. Case reset. To Assignment Office to schedule.
01/24/2008
Case reset for TRIAL on 04/04/2008 08:30 in courtroom 2.
01/24/2008
Complainant notified by regular mail on 01/24/2008.
04/04/2008
Bench warrant issued.
04/04/2008
Bond set at $500.00.
04/11/2008
Defendant ordered to pay $15 warrant block fee to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles.
04/24/2008
BENCH WARRANT ordered withdrawn.
04/24/2008
Case continued to 05/06/2008 09:00 in courtroom 2.
05/06/2008
Defendant present with attorney JOSEPH WESTMEYER, #0071262.
05/06/2008
Case reset. To Assignment Office to schedule.
05/06/2008
Case reset for TRIAL on 05/27/2008 08:30 in courtroom 2.
05/06/2008
Complainant officer notice sent to desk sergeant on 05/06/2008.
05/27/2008
Defendant present with attorney JOSEPH WESTMEYER, #0071262.
05/27/2008
Off Docket.
01/05/2009
b/w fee vacated
01/05/2009
Defendant has complied with all requirements for release of warrant block. Warrant block cleared.
What just astounds most me is how candidate Stamos not only failed to appear in court, as required, but ended up with a BENCH WARRANT out against him!!!!!!! AND, he had to post bail, as a result…
Good luck on Tuesday.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:04 amhenri – clarification on your comment #128:
When a person fails to appear and a bench warrant issued, the bail amount is set by the judge at the same time. Stamos did NOT have to post bail and was not arrested as a result of this bench warrant, otherwise, those notations (warrant returned/service made and bail posted) would be on the case information.
In TMC, if you have a bench warrant, the court also places a block on your driver’s license. Stamos paid the fee for that block, but later had the fee waived when his case was marked ‘off docket.’
What people need to know about this case is that he was charged, but never found guilty and never paid any fees/fines/costs for the case.
Those are the facts based upon the case file…make your decisions about voting for the individual accordingly.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:09 amIt has been a stunning campaign season… imagine what you find while trying to decide who the best candidate truly is…
Case in point, Royal Barber. I just LOVE his 5 goals…
http://voteroyalbarber.com/
Royal Barber wrote:
Okay, fair enough… but bland. Really, pretty basic.
Royal Barber wrote:
Yeah, now THIS one makes a good point… at the very least, ALL employees, including township trustees should have clean driving records… how’s that gonna work for ya, Royal?
Case Number: TRD-92-08417-0101
Defendant
Case Number
Date of Birth
Charge
BARBER, ROYAL H III TRD-92-08417-0101 03/12/1970 LICENSE REQ;DRIVER/CHAUFFEUR amended from DRIVING UNDER SUSPENSION,REVOC/RESTRICT
Case Number: TRD-92-21470-0102
Defendant
Case Number
Date of Birth
Charge
BARBER, ROYAL H III TRD-92-21470-0102 03/12/1970 LICENSE REQ;DRIVER/CHAUFFEUR
Case Number: TRD-92-21470-0202
Defendant
Case Number
Date of Birth
Charge
BARBER, ROYAL H III TRD-92-21470-0202 03/12/1970 STARTING AND BACKING VEHICLES amended from RECKLESS OPERATION ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY OTHER THAN STREETS OR HIGHWAYS
Case Number: TRD-97-24821-0102
Defendant
Case Number
Date of Birth
Charge
BARBER, ROYAL H III TRD-97-24821-0102 03/12/1970 LICENSE REQ;DRIVING WITHOUT LICENSE
Case Number: TRD-97-24821-0202
Defendant
Case Number
Date of Birth
Charge
BARBER, ROYAL H III TRD-97-24821-0202 03/12/1970 MAXIMUM SPEED LIMITS;ASSURED CLEAR DIST
Royal Barber wrote:
Ahh, yes, a public spectacle… surely any endorsed candidate of the Stainbrook-led LCRP is free from creating any hint of a spectacle…
Case Number: TRC-91-00317-0101
Defendant
Case Number
Date of Birth
Charge
BARBER, ROYAL H III TRC-91-00317-0101 03/12/1970 DUI;ALCOHOL AND/OR DRUG OF ABUSE
Just check Toledo Muni Court website for yourself for the details…
And, ask LOTS of questions. Such as, how did someone with such a record actually get past a Secret Service check to be in the motorcade for Senator McCain as he claims….
Just a thought on a Friday night…
October 30th, 2009 at 8:43 pmHmmmm, so it sounds like Royal Barber (great name btw) is another “regional” candidate. Just what we need out here, for our township trustees to sell us out to the City of Sylvania! We have fought hard enough to remain a township without our elected officials giving it away.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:39 pmAll the criminal stuff is easily explained since he is one of stainbrooks pals, birds of a feather and all that.
I’ve read 131 posts on this thread and elicited some gorundbreaking themes:
1. The Blade has officially hit rock bottom.
2. Jon Stainbrook went for quantity over quality and has fielded a slate of semi-literate fully-shady candidates.
3. Chris Myers’ reputation has grown to the extent that anytime anyone feels slighted, they think Myers is some how behind it.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:39 pm